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afoaf

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casa_mugrienta said:
afoaf said:
casa_mugrienta said:
afoaf said:
that's your interpretation of it.

it doesn't mean it is accurate or an idea shared by everyone.

EXACTLY!
casa_mugrienta said:
"Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media
It's true.

The idea that hate and racism are thoroughly entrenched in our culture is a product of media sensationalism and politicians politicking.

Bonafide racists are a rare breed in the United States. Especially compared to the rest of the planet.

That's why it's so cringey on the rare occasion you actually meet one.

Elsewhere it's a regular occurrence.
have you shopped at Sephora lately?
 

casa_mugrienta

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afoaf said:
casa_mugrienta said:
afoaf said:
casa_mugrienta said:
afoaf said:
that's your interpretation of it.

it doesn't mean it is accurate or an idea shared by everyone.

EXACTLY!
casa_mugrienta said:
"Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media
It's true.

The idea that hate and racism are thoroughly entrenched in our culture is a product of media sensationalism and politicians politicking.

Bonafide racists are a rare breed in the United States. Especially compared to the rest of the planet.

That's why it's so cringey on the rare occasion you actually meet one.

Elsewhere it's a regular occurrence.
have you shopped at Sephora lately?
No, I don't wear makeup nor does my wife.


 

afoaf

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casa_mugrienta said:
The idea that hate and racism are thoroughly entrenched in our culture is a product of media sensationalism and politicians politicking.
and also in the data on prosecutions, sentences, representation in incarcerated
populations, wages, lending practices, home ownership, etc...

you're also assuming people wear it on their sleeves which is typically not the
case, particularly not in southern california.

life in the bubble....

 

Ifallalot

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afoaf said:
GDaddy said:
afoaf said:
GDaddy said:
Well for one thing I support egalitarianism and equality, not affirmative action and equity. So obviously I'm no feminist in the way he uses that term.
why do we have affirmative action laws in our country/culture?
In 2019 its because some groups are deemed incapable of competing without the state's intervention.

thank you for so effectively illustrating my point
Truth hurts
 

Billy Ocean

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afoaf said:
casa_mugrienta said:
afoaf said:
casa_mugrienta said:
afoaf said:
that's your interpretation of it.

it doesn't mean it is accurate or an idea shared by everyone.

EXACTLY!
casa_mugrienta said:
"Racism" is nothing but a distraction driven by politicians and the media
It's true.

The idea that hate and racism are thoroughly entrenched in our culture is a product of media sensationalism and politicians politicking.

Bonafide racists are a rare breed in the United States. Especially compared to the rest of the planet.

That's why it's so cringey on the rare occasion you actually meet one.

Elsewhere it's a regular occurrence.
have you shopped at Sephora lately?
Are there a lot of hot high maintenance racist chicks there?
 

FecalFace

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ifallalot said:
afoaf said:
GDaddy said:
afoaf said:
GDaddy said:
Well for one thing I support egalitarianism and equality, not affirmative action and equity. So obviously I'm no feminist in the way he uses that term.
why do we have affirmative action laws in our country/culture?
In 2019 its because some groups are deemed incapable of competing without the state's intervention.

thank you for so effectively illustrating my point
Truth hurts
Truth never hurts you.

#lowempath #emotionalretardation

 

afoaf

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ifallalot said:
afoaf said:
GDaddy said:
afoaf said:
GDaddy said:
Well for one thing I support egalitarianism and equality, not affirmative action and equity. So obviously I'm no feminist in the way he uses that term.
why do we have affirmative action laws in our country/culture?
In 2019 its because some groups are deemed incapable of competing without the state's intervention.

thank you for so effectively illustrating my point
Truth hurts
it's your perverted truth.

if the US truly offered an equal shot, we would never have needed a
civil rights act or some of the affirmative action programs we have now.

why do you ignore both history and the present state of things in favor
of abstract theoreticals that have no bearing in our reality?
 

Ifallalot

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You cannot create equality with inequality.

Like GDaddy said, egalitarianism and equality, not equity. The only way to have true equality is to have the broadest set of terms imaginable without special treatment
 

afoaf

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ifallalot said:
You cannot create equality with inequality.

Like GDaddy said, egalitarianism and equality, not equity. The only way to have true equality is to have the broadest set of terms imaginable without special treatment

so your answer is to do nothing about inequality?

you may not like it, but laws were enacted to ensure egalitarian outcomes going forward
and to make up for folks who had been disadvantaged by the previous, unequal system.






 

FecalFace

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afoaf said:
ifallalot said:
You cannot create equality with inequality.

Like GDaddy said, egalitarianism and equality, not equity. The only way to have true equality is to have the broadest set of terms imaginable without special treatment

so your answer is to do nothing about inequality?
Why would he want to do anything, it never affected him.
 

Ifallalot

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afoaf said:
ifallalot said:
You cannot create equality with inequality.

Like GDaddy said, egalitarianism and equality, not equity. The only way to have true equality is to have the broadest set of terms imaginable without special treatment

so your answer is to do nothing about inequality?

you may not like it, but laws were enacted to ensure egalitarian outcomes going forward
and to make up for folks who had been disadvantaged by the previous, unequal system.
The laws have been enacted. People are equal under the law and that's the only moral thing possible because trying to make up for past mistakes only creates more inequality.
 

GDaddy

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The point is moot because those laws aren't going away any time soon. In the meantime more women are attending college than men and earning more degrees than men - arguably as a direct result of the two groups making different choices and not because of external limitations. And the gender wage gap is subject to considerable controversy - not consensus - among economists.

So the current environment in 2019 may or may not yet be perfected, but by that same measure nobody could argue that it still resembles the social environment that existed when these laws were passed.

 

mundus

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The difficulty in dealing with racism is it is heavily linked to economic class, and we are a very classist society.
 

afoaf

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mundus said:
The difficulty in dealing with racism is it is heavily linked to economic class, and we are a very classist society.
while economic mobility declines

this society is not equitable
 

Billy Ocean

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afoaf said:
ifallalot said:
You cannot create equality with inequality.

Like GDaddy said, egalitarianism and equality, not equity. The only way to have true equality is to have the broadest set of terms imaginable without special treatment

so your answer is to do nothing about inequality?

you may not like it, but laws were enacted to ensure egalitarian outcomes going forward
and to make up for folks who had been disadvantaged by the previous, unequal system.
That’s actually not what it’s about anymore

It’s about “diversity” being a compelling interest

This is what all of the affirmative action Supreme Court cases say