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History buffs: "You cannot lift the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer."
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We're moving this way at work. I'd rather watch on a TV but maybe we're old fashioned?Surfdog said:
The key is getting something that can play out from your phone to your TV but remain integrated with real-time stats or twitter or some bullshit so you can be involved while watching.
The NFL just signed a huge deal with Twitter to do live streaming next year
We're you even alive in the 70's and very early 80's?ifallalot said:Surfdog said:Tell that to my parents that lived thru the Great Depression, or fought in WWII, or as kids we had to live off Hamburger Helper in the 70's because prices kept jumping up on everything beyond parents wage increases.Kento said:I voted for a more advanced curriculum?Surfdog said:
The point I'm getting at is that previous generation had it soft, really soft.
Now, living a tough life is not getting cell coverage on your smartphone.
You are completely out of touch
Did you try to buy a car, and have to pay 21% interest on it?
Pay 10% to as high as 17% on mortgage interest rates? And these were for well qualified.
I'd love to see the bitching here, if we were in those economic situations.
Desktops are done. Laptops you still need because you can't type up a large document with your thumbs.Surfdog said:
I am old school and still like to read actual books instead of a kindle.
Hopefully for kids, they'll continue to be more reliant on technology instead of lugging huge textbooks around. Speaking of wasteful spending, the textbook industry is way out of control. Bloated costs, new editions every year (with no real updates), and hard to sell back at decent return costs. It'll be beautiful to see technology destroy that industry.
You can always use USB cable to attach to your phone to see movies/TV on bigger screen.
This place is still my overwhelmingly time waster of choice. If only I could embed YouTube videos and post pics using phone.
My out of touch comment was due to the mention of zero wage growth while fighting price increases. What exactly do you think has changed since then? Same thing happening
Anyway, that interest back then was tax deductable so don't cry to me about that
Anyway, that interest back then was tax deductable so don't cry to me about that
Surfdog, why live in California if you're going to endlessly moan on and on about how awful it is with the democrats in charge? Wouldn't you be happier living in one of the red states like Louisiana, Kansas, Texas, or Alabama? I mean just look at those wonderful republican Utopias. 
I know for sure I wouldn't want to live in those states. California is predominantly a blue state so keep on bitching about it, but it ain't changing anytime soon.
I know for sure I wouldn't want to live in those states. California is predominantly a blue state so keep on bitching about it, but it ain't changing anytime soon.
LOL at the people who think we're actually "pulling down the wage payer". The wage payer is the only one getting paid at this point.ifallalot said:
Kauai will be my home eventually. Hopefully sooner than later. At least their sales tax is still half of Calif. Hawaii is a blue state too, but has it's share of silent fiscal conservatives. Just don't talk politics in mixed company, unless you're sure.GromsMom said:Surfdog, why live in California if you're going to endlessly moan on and on about how awful it is with the democrats in charge? Wouldn't you be happier living in one of the red states like Louisiana, Kansas, Texas, or Alabama? I mean just look at those wonderful republican Utopias.
I know for sure I wouldn't want to live in those states. California is predominantly a blue state so keep on bitching about it, but it ain't changing anytime soon.
You can stick a fork in California. The once Golden State of opportunity will be only for those with the gold and those who will polish it for them.
Not all interest was tax deductible. Mortgage and credit cards only. Reagan halted credit card interest deductions.
Corporate and small business are 2 completely different animals.hal9000 said:LOL at the people who think we're actually "pulling down the wage payer". The wage payer is the only one getting paid at this point.ifallalot said:
Yeah, because you are so known for only being a "fiscal conservative".Surfdog said:Kauai will be my home eventually. Hopefully sooner than later. At least their sales tax is still half of Calif. Hawaii is a blue state too, but has it's share of silent fiscal conservatives. Just don't talk politics in mixed company, unless you're sure.GromsMom said:Surfdog, why live in California if you're going to endlessly moan on and on about how awful it is with the democrats in charge? Wouldn't you be happier living in one of the red states like Louisiana, Kansas, Texas, or Alabama? I mean just look at those wonderful republican Utopias.
I know for sure I wouldn't want to live in those states. California is predominantly a blue state so keep on bitching about it, but it ain't changing anytime soon.
You can stick a fork in California. The once Golden State of opportunity will be only for those with the gold and those who will polish it for them.
Hawaii is a pretty liberal state. More so then California. I believe that it's representation in congress is 100% democratic. (Tulsi galbard for Vice President.!
)Bought my 1st car with 20% interest then sat down with Paul Volker and had a sandwich.
We are in a different era. Assets are so levered up with ZIRP that any material move (up) in interest rates will arguably bring down the entire house of cards.
Fed has boxed itself into a corner with extremely dangerous short term thinking.
Hillary will fix it! :hat:
Like!!!!!! Send Them BACK!!!!!FranksBeau said:"You cannot lift the wage earner by flooding the market with cheap labor."
Ya think!GromsMom said:
Perhaps a correlation is in order?
It pays not to work: Hawaii residents receive highest welfare benefits in US
http://www.hawaiireporter.com/it-pays-not-to-work-hawaiian-residents-receive-highest-welfare-benefits-in-us
LBJ when passing the Great Society legislation "I'll have those [Hawaiians] voting Democrat for two-hundred years"?
I was just reading about that the other day. $60K per year although you would have to live in Section 8 housing with a bunch of tweekers.FranksBeau said:Ya think!GromsMom said:
Perhaps a correlation is in order?
It pays not to work: Hawaii residents receive highest welfare benefits in US
http://www.hawaiireporter.com/it-pays-not-to-work-hawaiian-residents-receive-highest-welfare-benefits-in-us
LBJ when passing the Great Society legislation "I'll have those [Hawaiians] voting Democrat for two-hundred years"?
Ya, read that stat a few weeks ago.FranksBeau said:Ya think!GromsMom said:
Perhaps a correlation is in order?
It pays not to work: Hawaii residents receive highest welfare benefits in US
http://www.hawaiireporter.com/it-pays-not-to-work-hawaiian-residents-receive-highest-welfare-benefits-in-us
LBJ when passing the Great Society legislation "I'll have those [Hawaiians] voting Democrat for two-hundred years"?
California's slackin' and needs to match or beat those rates. Can't let Hawaii beat us on compassion. Even the new minimum wage couldn't compete with that. We won't even require citizenship. Come one, come all.
Then, on the other hand, you look at this:
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0X324W
Responsible for 29 deaths and gets a $250,000 fine (after receiving $12M golden parachute no less) and a year in jail.
That is an outrage.
You know what justice would be?
His execution and distribution of every single penny of his assets to all of the miners that worked for him. Not just the ones killed (although their families should receive greater than the average share for obvious reasons) but everyone who worked there under his leadership.
But he's in the protected class of citizens I suppose. Gotta make sure they stay profitable as possible - f*ck everyone else.
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0X324W
Responsible for 29 deaths and gets a $250,000 fine (after receiving $12M golden parachute no less) and a year in jail.
That is an outrage.
You know what justice would be?
His execution and distribution of every single penny of his assets to all of the miners that worked for him. Not just the ones killed (although their families should receive greater than the average share for obvious reasons) but everyone who worked there under his leadership.
But he's in the protected class of citizens I suppose. Gotta make sure they stay profitable as possible - f*ck everyone else.
Hey, a 6 inch screen 12 inches from your face is the same as the 65" across the room.Surfdog said:
Move on with the times pops.