Isn't that part of CA going to be where all the development is in the next 50 years?
The coast is filled up.
The coast is filled up.
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Dummies don’t get it. No foresight like most dummies.Autoprax said:Isn't that part of CA going to be where all the development is in the next 50 years?
The coast is filled up.
Yes, liberty comes from having a choice.ifallalot said:The high speed rail is not a choice. It is from like Bakersfield to Tracy and has zero infrastructure planned to get you to where you actually need to go from Bako or Tracy.FecalFace said:Why don’t you sit in your car for 4 hours a day and let other people take the train.ifallalot said:Yes!grapedrink said:Or just raise the state income tax, what's paying 12% if you already pay 11%? Meanwhile, keep doling pensions based on 98% of a state employees last year's salary before retirement, for the rest of their livescasa_mugrienta said:We should divert gas tax "money for road repairs" to fill in the gaps in high speed rail funding.
Or how about just an additional gas tax?
Great plan!
Don't like the gas tax? Use public transportation!
If you are dumb enough to believe that 1 person to a car is a viable mode of transportation in CA in foreseeable future and that building more roads is a solution for relieving the traffic problem in SC, instead of investing in public transportation options, you deserve to waste your life sitting in traffic and listening to your dumb right wing kook podcasts.
It’s about having a choice.
It cracks me up when you talk about your liberties being taken away from you but you want to take other people’s liberties away.
How you equate this to taking other people's liberty away?
I'm down with the rickshaws, it would give me the opportunity to make my oppression of other cultures more diverse and since asians are honorary white people it will signal my wokeness to the world.the janitor said:only for the Central Valley leg, too much opposition from you aggro SoCal f*cks to make it work down there. Up here we will be using rickshawsCharmingSophisticate said:I'm assuming that a bike lane is going come with this.
Coastal Southern California was "nowhere" 100 years ago also.ifallalot said:While I agree with you the network has to start somewhere, this boondoggle has nothing to do with preventing people sitting in traffic, at least within the next century at this rate. This "somewhere" is literally nowhere, and goes through a part of California that is not plagued with congestion or traffic, nor will ever be
The liberty that comes with a having a choice besides cars is negated when the money for the choice is being stolen from everyone else to fund something that would be able to be funded on its own if it was really a tenable project.
A lot of people in that area thought they were voting to get high on rails of speed.Democrat said:Haters
Before you blow your tops, how many of you have ever tried to commute between Victorville and Tracy? This high speed rail is a blessing to at least a dozen people.
^^^Autoprax said:In the old days, you built the rail roads and then you bought that land around the railroad
Would you define this project as a jobs program for tweakers?Kento said:A lot of people in that area thought they were voting to get high on rails of speed.Democrat said:Haters
Before you blow your tops, how many of you have ever tried to commute between Victorville and Tracy? This high speed rail is a blessing to at least a dozen people.
Calling this train to nowhere the Palin Express only added to the confusion.
FecalFace said:Coastal Southern California was "nowhere" 100 years ago also.ifallalot said:While I agree with you the network has to start somewhere, this boondoggle has nothing to do with preventing people sitting in traffic, at least within the next century at this rate. This "somewhere" is literally nowhere, and goes through a part of California that is not plagued with congestion or traffic, nor will ever be
The liberty that comes with a having a choice besides cars is negated when the money for the choice is being stolen from everyone else to fund something that would be able to be funded on its own if it was really a tenable project.
If somebody had enough foresight to start building a train network then, instead of building malls and suburbs, centered around the automobile, we probably would have a traffic problem today.
Urban planning in SC has always been about short term financial gain.
It's never been about making it a better place to live.
That's what happens when there's no GUBMINT REGULAYSHN or foresight.
Also, you came out against ALL public transportation or bike lanes.
You have it backwardsAutoprax said:In the old days, you built the rail roads and then you bought that land around the railroad
Don't you guys watch cowboy movies?
Or True Detective Season 2, which I like BTW.
You like toll roads?ifallalot said:FecalFace said:Coastal Southern California was "nowhere" 100 years ago also.ifallalot said:While I agree with you the network has to start somewhere, this boondoggle has nothing to do with preventing people sitting in traffic, at least within the next century at this rate. This "somewhere" is literally nowhere, and goes through a part of California that is not plagued with congestion or traffic, nor will ever be
The liberty that comes with a having a choice besides cars is negated when the money for the choice is being stolen from everyone else to fund something that would be able to be funded on its own if it was really a tenable project.
If somebody had enough foresight to start building a train network then, instead of building malls and suburbs, centered around the automobile, we probably would have a traffic problem today.
Urban planning in SC has always been about short term financial gain.
It's never been about making it a better place to live.
That's what happens when there's no GUBMINT REGULAYSHN or foresight.
Also, you came out against ALL public transportation or bike lanes.
Government regulation enabled everything about the SoCal transportation network.
And to be fair, making places easy to get to by car without public transportation was looked at as making the world a better place to live when everything was developed 50-75 years ago. Trains were looked at as old-fashioned and outmoded.
I am against all public transportation and bike lanes. Mass transit doesn't have to and shouldn't be "public"
ifallalot said:You have it backwardsAutoprax said:In the old days, you built the rail roads and then you bought that land around the railroad
Don't you guys watch cowboy movies?
Or True Detective Season 2, which I like BTW.
You and your people invented backwards.FecalFace said:ifallalot said:You have it backwardsAutoprax said:In the old days, you built the rail roads and then you bought that land around the railroad
Don't you guys watch cowboy movies?
Or True Detective Season 2, which I like BTW.
You ARE backwards.
A high speed rail from San Bernardino to Vegas would be much more useful. Lots of people taking that route and it’s not like you need a car once you’re there. No need for many stops. The Big Boy Thermometer in Baker and Halloran Springs are quite impressive tourist attractions, I know, but I think most people will survive.ifallalot said:FecalFace said:Coastal Southern California was "nowhere" 100 years ago also.ifallalot said:While I agree with you the network has to start somewhere, this boondoggle has nothing to do with preventing people sitting in traffic, at least within the next century at this rate. This "somewhere" is literally nowhere, and goes through a part of California that is not plagued with congestion or traffic, nor will ever be
The liberty that comes with a having a choice besides cars is negated when the money for the choice is being stolen from everyone else to fund something that would be able to be funded on its own if it was really a tenable project.
If somebody had enough foresight to start building a train network then, instead of building malls and suburbs, centered around the automobile, we probably would have a traffic problem today.
Urban planning in SC has always been about short term financial gain.
It's never been about making it a better place to live.
That's what happens when there's no GUBMINT REGULAYSHN or foresight.
Also, you came out against ALL public transportation or bike lanes.
Government regulation enabled everything about the SoCal transportation network.
And to be fair, making places easy to get to by car without public transportation was looked at as making the world a better place to live when everything was developed 50-75 years ago. Trains were looked at as old-fashioned and outmoded.
I am against all public transportation and bike lanes. Mass transit doesn't have to and shouldn't be "public"
Yes.ifallalot said:You have it backwardsAutoprax said:In the old days, you built the rail roads and then you bought that land around the railroad
Don't you guys watch cowboy movies?
Or True Detective Season 2, which I like BTW.
But you can do rails the whole way.Kento said:A high speed rail from San Bernardino to Vegas would be much more useful. Lots of people taking that route and it’s not like you need a car once you’re there. No need for many stops. The Big Boy Thermometer in Baker and Halloran Springs are quite impressive tourist attractions, I know, but I think most people will survive.ifallalot said:FecalFace said:Coastal Southern California was "nowhere" 100 years ago also.ifallalot said:While I agree with you the network has to start somewhere, this boondoggle has nothing to do with preventing people sitting in traffic, at least within the next century at this rate. This "somewhere" is literally nowhere, and goes through a part of California that is not plagued with congestion or traffic, nor will ever be
The liberty that comes with a having a choice besides cars is negated when the money for the choice is being stolen from everyone else to fund something that would be able to be funded on its own if it was really a tenable project.
If somebody had enough foresight to start building a train network then, instead of building malls and suburbs, centered around the automobile, we probably would have a traffic problem today.
Urban planning in SC has always been about short term financial gain.
It's never been about making it a better place to live.
That's what happens when there's no GUBMINT REGULAYSHN or foresight.
Also, you came out against ALL public transportation or bike lanes.
Government regulation enabled everything about the SoCal transportation network.
And to be fair, making places easy to get to by car without public transportation was looked at as making the world a better place to live when everything was developed 50-75 years ago. Trains were looked at as old-fashioned and outmoded.
I am against all public transportation and bike lanes. Mass transit doesn't have to and shouldn't be "public"
The only downside to the high speed part is that you don’t get enough to truly get your drink on before the Raider game.
To quote the infamous Black Hole denizen Raider Rob in response to the Patriots Snow Job, “This year WE bring the snow and it won’t be the kind that fall from the sky, baby!”ifallalot said:But you can do rails the whole way.Kento said:A high speed rail from San Bernardino to Vegas would be much more useful. Lots of people taking that route and it’s not like you need a car once you’re there. No need for many stops. The Big Boy Thermometer in Baker and Halloran Springs are quite impressive tourist attractions, I know, but I think most people will survive.ifallalot said:FecalFace said:Coastal Southern California was "nowhere" 100 years ago also.ifallalot said:While I agree with you the network has to start somewhere, this boondoggle has nothing to do with preventing people sitting in traffic, at least within the next century at this rate. This "somewhere" is literally nowhere, and goes through a part of California that is not plagued with congestion or traffic, nor will ever be
The liberty that comes with a having a choice besides cars is negated when the money for the choice is being stolen from everyone else to fund something that would be able to be funded on its own if it was really a tenable project.
If somebody had enough foresight to start building a train network then, instead of building malls and suburbs, centered around the automobile, we probably would have a traffic problem today.
Urban planning in SC has always been about short term financial gain.
It's never been about making it a better place to live.
That's what happens when there's no GUBMINT REGULAYSHN or foresight.
Also, you came out against ALL public transportation or bike lanes.
Government regulation enabled everything about the SoCal transportation network.
And to be fair, making places easy to get to by car without public transportation was looked at as making the world a better place to live when everything was developed 50-75 years ago. Trains were looked at as old-fashioned and outmoded.
I am against all public transportation and bike lanes. Mass transit doesn't have to and shouldn't be "public"
The only downside to the high speed part is that you don’t get enough to truly get your drink on before the Raider game.
I 100% support a train to Vegas for Raiders games