I walked into the kitchen this am, poured a cup of coffee and turned around and Frank was on my TV. It was a GMA piece/tribute. See ya around Frankie.
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Fires in Maui
- Thread starter b.r.
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I read that less than 1% of Hawaiian wildfires are started naturally. (lightning/volcanic) I don't know if that is true or not.
Lahaina residents worry a rebuilt Maui town could slip into the hands of affluent outsiders | AP News
They can call it Oprah's Village. Maybe Zucker Town? Or perhaps something with a Saudi Arabian feel?
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Sadly, that is likely inevitable. Doubt most resident's insurance would cover the cost to rebuild in the same location nowadays. Settlements probably depend on the cause of the fire as well?
You're not looking very hard. Read multiple articles from major news that specifically talk about the cause. They interviewed fire chief or whomever is in charge of stuff over there and articles all say same thing "We don't know what caused it."
How did the Maui fire start? What we know about the cause of the Lahaina blaze
Dry conditions and strong wind fueled wildfires on the Big Island and Maui, where blazes spread in Lahaina as well as inland.
www.cbsnews.com
And it just happened. Sometimes finding cause of fire can take a lot more time through investigation. I'm sure focus right now is not on cause but on helping those in need.
No, I've actually done a number of searches. And yes, the only thing I found was a lot of silence or "We don't know what caused it."You're not looking very hard. Read multiple articles from major news that specifically talk about the cause. They interviewed fire chief or whomever is in charge of stuff over there and articles all say same thing "We don't know what caused it."
How did the Maui fire start? What we know about the cause of the Lahaina blaze
Dry conditions and strong wind fueled wildfires on the Big Island and Maui, where blazes spread in Lahaina as well as inland.
And it just happened. Sometimes finding cause of fire can take a lot more time through investigation. I'm sure focus right now is not on cause but on helping those in need.
I get that it takes time. Thank you Captain Obvious!
Yes, media coverage on the subject seems to be lacking IMO. The few articles I found that mentioned it (two that I recall) said they have no idea how it started at this point. That was where I got the info re Hawaiian wildfires only being started by natural causes 1% of the time?First you say "media coverage seems to be scrupulously avoiding the cause"
Then admit the articles you find say they don't know what caused it.
Good grief.
"Nearly 85 per cent of US wildfires are caused by humans, according to the US Forest Service. Natural causes include lightning and volcanic activity.
In Hawaii, less than 1 per cent of fires are due to natural causes, according to Elizabeth Pickett, co-executive director of the Hawaii Wildfire Management Organization. The Hawaiian Islands have six active volcanoes, including one on Maui."
Hawaii wildfires: What caused the deadly blazes and is climate change to blame? | Euronews
This isn't that difficult Mr. Logic
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Spark, fuel, and air. The fuel and air were already there. Spark most likely from a downed power line due to high winds. Which one doesn’t matter, they’re all toasted now. It’s the full weight of the law firms of interested parties against Maui Electric.
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The unfortunate reality is that time isn’t on the people’s side.
I worked with a producer who lost his ocean front vacation home to Hurricane Sandy. He was fortunate that it was only a vacation home so he wasn’t left unhoused with nothing but the clothes on his back. But it was an excrutiating long time before they were allowed in to begin cleaning up and salvaging anything that was salvageable. Then when it came time to making claims, getting paid and beginning demo and rebuilding it ended up being well over a year before things got rolling. The problem is that situations like this with mass disaster end up being a boon for contractors and lumber suppliers to the point where there’s a run on their availability and materials they need to rebuild which of course allows the big spenders who have cash on hand that don’t need to wait on settlements to move to the head of the pack.
I imagine because of the remoteness of the islands this will all be exacerbated. There will be a logjam of available contractors and lumber that will make it very difficult for these people to rebuild their lives in a timely manner. And that’s only after they get financial aide. I have a feeling that many people will take their checks and just walk away. Which is unfortunate but seems inevitable.
As far as class action settlements, those can take years.
I posted earlier in this thread that I had a feeling that this would happen. I have a family friend that was on the litigating team for the Paradise Fire class action suit that netted something like $13 billion from PG&E. In their case they had hundred year old power lines in wilderness areas where they failed to control vegetation. There is precedent. The only problem for the victims of this fire in Lahaina is that these class actions typically take years. They may get a nice check 3-5yrs down the line. But it does nothing to help their current situations.
there is no Harbor on the west side ====okay there is the harbor but that and thethe boat ramp is a joke so it's just easier to use Kahului Harbor and fly everything into the airport stage it and move it out in convoys. I believe the lack of information coming out of the government and the state is like we're a little busy now =====get to you later
Retiree burns to death trying to shield friend’s beloved golden retriever from Maui wildfire
The owner of the doomed pooch later discovered the charred skeleton of his pal, 68-year-old Franklin Trejos, lying on top of his 3-year-old golden retriever, Sam, who also was found dead inside the…
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