Complicated truths about wind power and right whales…..

Kento

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Oh. So recreational boat fishfinders are EXACTLY the same thing as the systems used by the US Navy and the deep penetrating sonar used to determine where to install super sized windmills. Next level stupidity from the erBB Muppets as usual.
So your issue is with the magnitude of the sonar, not the actual use of it?

What have your talk radio hosts programmed you into thinking is an appropriate cutoff?

And don't say the whales because that is laughably heart-twinging virtue signaling bullshit over something that you and ilk don't really believe in at all.
 

plasticbertrand

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Oh. So recreational boat fishfinders are EXACTLY the same thing as the systems used by the US Navy and the deep penetrating sonar used to determine where to install super sized windmills. Next level stupidity from the erBB Muppets as usual.
There are literally hundreds of thousands of boats using sonar.
There's one Navy ship using the sonar once and you're all of a sudden a Greenpeace warrior.

Clown does clown things.

You went really quiet about oil platforms and floating wind generators but you are still here strutting around like you won something.

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plasticbertrand

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The "Save the Whales" folks were all over the US Navy about this technology for many years. The Navy even admitted it killed whales. Now its OK to kill whales with it because windmills.
But you still want to drive your gas boat fast.

 

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The "Save the Whales" folks were all over the US Navy about this technology for many years. The Navy even admitted it killed whales. Now its OK to kill whales with it because windmills.
it has been repeatedly demonstrated to you that the sonar that the navy uses is not the same sonar that is being employed for the bottom surveys done for the windmills and yet you continue to repeat the lie

#zerointegrity #liar
 

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One more time.... worth a watch if you like facts (not you Grommy)

I just kind of skimmed thru this video with the sound off. They only briefly showed the anchor chains that hold the floating base in "place". Did they mention that these anchor chains will completely and forever scour huge swaths of ocean floor creating massive dead zones.
Much more ecologically sound to mount the base of the tower directly into the seabed. It is way more expensive but the damage to the ocean floor during construction would be temporary vs forever.
 

plasticbertrand

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I just kind of skimmed thru this video with the sound off. They only briefly showed the anchor chains that hold the floating base in "place". Did they mention that these anchor chains will completely and forever scour huge swaths of ocean floor creating massive dead zones.
Much more ecologically sound to mount the base of the tower directly into the seabed. It is way more expensive but the damage to the ocean floor during construction would be temporary vs forever.
True that.
The oil platforms have also been using thrusters on each corner to dynamically adjust the position of the platform, without a need for anchors.
The offshore depths are often prohibitive for anchoring.
 

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The offshore wind farm developers will lobby for floating chain anchored platforms vs sea bed mounted or free floating platforms controlled via thrusters due to cost.

The issue is that we have no idea of what the long term ramifications are in regards to offshore wind/energy production. The "no more oil" crowd doesn't seem too concerned with the impacts their favored "green" energy projects have on the environment. Kind of odd that none of them protest the scrubbing and covering of millions of acres of land with solar panels, creating massive dead zones in the ocean for wind turbines, etc... before we have a clue of the long term ramifications of these actions.

I say we focus on creating urban and suburban forests which are proven to lower the temperature of the surrounding area while simultaneously sequestering carbon. Sometimes the simple things are the best things....
 
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But you still want to drive your gas boat fast.

Hey comrade.

yes. Yes I do. Speed to catch fish offshore.

Theproposed noaa 35ft, 10 knot restriction to the essentially entire eastern seaboard is malarkey bull$hit. Gross Government overreach.
 

plasticbertrand

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Hey comrade.

yes. Yes I do. Speed to catch fish offshore.

Theproposed noaa 35ft, 10 knot restriction to the essentially entire eastern seaboard is malarkey bull$hit. Gross Government overreach.
Speed limits are government overreach? How?

What's wrong with 10 knots?