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Are the feds about to roll tanks on Portlandia?
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It’s not ok. I think the liberal consensus was if they’re breaking the law they should be arrested. And many were arrested.
literally this is what every libtard on erBB was saying, yet somehow Idiot Voltron spun it the other way and acted like libs were cheerleading the anarchists.
Many arrested, very few charged and convicted. Why is that
The “protestors” used George Floyd as a moral license, and the left defended their right to riot violently or at the very least minimized, gaslighted or turned a blind eye to it. Plenty of proof of that in this thread.
I have no idea. I don’t live in Portland or follow people’s criminal cases.Many arrested, very few charged and convicted. Why is that
The “protestors” used George Floyd as a moral license, and the left defended their right to riot violently or at the very least minimized, gaslighted or turned a blind eye to it. Plenty of proof of that in this thread.
When you say turned a blind eye, is there something you expected posters here to do?
Many arrested, very few charged and convicted. Why is that
The “protestors” used George Floyd as a moral license, and the left defended their right to riot violently or at the very least minimized, gaslighted or turned a blind eye to it. Plenty of proof of that in this thread.
91% of Portland protest arrests not being prosecuted
Protesters are 'emboldened,' coalition leader says, despite tough talk from Portland officials including Mayor Ted Wheeler.
pamplinmedia.com
about a thousand arrests (some multiple times)
74 people facing federal charges (7% of arrests)
74 People Facing Federal Charges for Crimes Committed During Portland Demonstrations
U.S. Attorney Billy J. Williams announced today that 74 people are facing federal charges for crimes committed adjacent to or under the guise of peaceful demonstrations in Portland since at least May 29, 2020.
two dozen antifa!
More than two dozen Antifa rioters charged for Portland mayhem
More than two dozen suspected Antifa rioters have been charged in Portland in the past two weeks.
nypost.com
remember...this was confined to an area of a few blocks...
Inside the Battle for Downtown Portland (Published 2020)
Night after night, calm gave way to chaos. See how the clashes between federal agents and protesters unfolded.
www.nytimes.com
do we not like these numbers?
it says there were probably about a thousand people each night...likely a lot of repeat visitors
almost three quarters of arrests were misdemeanors
it doesn't feel like these people were "let off"....I'm not sure what would have been satisfactory to grapedrink?
7% charged 
sounds like pretty lousy numbers to me. How many convictions? Either way those are pretty good odds for a criminal.
oregonlive.com
www.seattletimes.com
Seems that the downtown will never recover. Sad!
sounds like pretty lousy numbers to me. How many convictions? Either way those are pretty good odds for a criminal.
Downtown Portland businesses reeling, again, after latest spate of vandalism
Businesses that had hoped the worst behind them are instead boarding up their windows again. Some are closing forever.
oregonlive.com
Workers, visitors still aren’t coming back to downtown Portland
Portland has significant work ahead in rebuilding downtown’s appeal after the upheaval of 2020, rise of homelessness, and a spike in shootings and murders in the city’s core.
www.seattletimes.com
Seems that the downtown will never recover. Sad!
What’s normal?7% charged
Downtown Portland businesses reeling, again, after latest spate of vandalism
Businesses that had hoped the worst behind them are instead boarding up their windows again. Some are closing forever.
Workers, visitors still aren’t coming back to downtown Portland
Portland has significant work ahead in rebuilding downtown’s appeal after the upheaval of 2020, rise of homelessness, and a spike in shootings and murders in the city’s core.
Seems that the downtown will never recover. Sad!
How does it stack up against 1/6?
Not sure, but we know WAY higher than 7%.
You'd think there were at least 9000 people that got inside or just outside the Capitol bldg that day?
Most sources say about 2000 give or take?
https://www.insider.com/all-the-us-capitol-pro-trump-riot-arrests-charges-names-2021-1
So, almost 50% arrests to participants, so far.
And a pretty high conviction rate, to date. Almost half arrested have plead guilty, so far.
Some have been jailed waiting for trial well over a year now.
"I'm Going to War ... Bringing the Big Cock": FBI Ignores Trump Fan's Post
In this daily series, Newsweek explores the steps that led to the January 6 Capitol Riot.
www.newsweek.com
The 2000 person estimate is for those who made it inside the Capitol. There were thousands who didn’t.
Do you think there were 2000 different people lighting fires and looting in Portland?
https://www.newsweek.com/accused-capitol-rioters-could-spend-more-year-jail-before-trial-1656894
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/verify/why-capitol-riot-defendants-being-held-without-bond-before-trial-january-6-congress/65-1e4d4dd6-eded-4187-85f1-d4dfcc3a9519
And this was over a year ago.
Bubbles are useful for many here.
I try to make sure I pop mine every so often.
Not a good indicator of one's guilt. Nobody should have to wait that long for a trial, even if they are guilty.
Agree. That said, courts are already backlogged to an unbelievable degree. It’s unlikely the local Federal Court has anywhere near the capacity to handle all these trials quickly.
If that's the case then they should be let out on bail/bond and then have them return to trial when the time is right, unless that's not an option on the federal level? The Feds seem much tougher with minimum sentencing and early release (as in non-existent IIRC), so I wouldn't be surprised if that applied to bail/bond as well.
Otherwise they have basically served a 20 month sentence already. Which some probably deserve, at the very least.
generally, I agree, but how do you balance that with the need to protect society if they have been indicted for a violent crime or have been classified as a flight risk?
Isn't that the challenge with any sort of legal system? A system that presumes innocence until proven guilty should not be holding people without a trial for months-to-years on end. I'm not sure how democrats can advocate for ending cash bail on the state side (which I agree with), then be okay with 1-2+ years of pretrial detention on the federal side because Trump.
Maybe prioritize the gross offenders and expedite them, and deal with the scrubs later? If they are a flight risk, take their passport and put an ankle bracelet if need be. It's pretty damn tough to be a fugitive nowadays.
so now you don’t like mostly peaceful protests or is it just your side that gets a pass?
Everyone is eligible for a pass if the victim has insurance. That's how that works