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Ifallalot

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“Nature”

you realize that we’re constantly defying what nature “wants” for us in almost every facet of our daily lives right?

My feelings on IVF actually aren’t far from yours. Only like abortion I see it as a personal decision. My gf and I have discussed it because her employer offers robust family planning benefits and we’ve determined that if it turns out one of us are shooting blanks that we both have no interest in taking part in a science project to conceive and will accept that that’s the card we’ve been dealt. If we really want kids we can consider adoption. But that’s a personal choice we made together and aren’t imposing on others. I have friends who have gone the IVF route and they seem happy with the results despite it being a process. I have my feelings about it but who am I to judge? You on the other hand care way too much about the decisions that other people make with their lives. Decisions that have zero effect on you.
You're mistaking expressing my feelings on something with "caring"
 
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Phi1

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IVF shouldn't exist

If nature doesn't want your bodies to produce a child, you shouldn't be able to

Contraception is a good thing, abortion is just a simp test, but IVF is as abhorrent against nature as cloning and gene splicing
Bye bye Viagra.

Have friends that were trying to have kids, miscarried several times. Tried IVF, didn’t work. Now expecting “naturally”.

Women are extra fertile after pregnancy, IVF can sometimes prime the pump too.
 
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Ifallalot

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Bye bye Viagra.

Have friends that were trying to have kids, miscarried several times. Tried IVF, didn’t work. Now expecting “naturally”.

Women are extra fertile after pregnancy, IVF can sometimes prime the pump too.
I hear about a lot of people who get pregnant when they “quit trying”

must be like a psychosomatic stress thing
 
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$kully

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You really shouldn’t put so much stock in something that doesn’t affect you

you don’t have a uterus
No but a lot of people in my life who are important to me do. I can’t wait for your daughter to become a teen mom.
 
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mundus

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They vote for him because of his lack of character, not in spite of it
I learned that here on the erbb
They just love that the shitttiest person possible gets away with it, just shitty stupid spiteful people
 

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voting rejigger from the bigger rigger !!




As things stand now, 48 states are set to allocate their electors this November according to the winner of the popular vote in their state. Whoever gets the most votes — no matter the margin — gets all the electors.
In the remaining two states, Maine and Nebraska, the process works a little differently. There, electoral votes are partially divvied up on a proportional basis. In Nebraska, two of its five electoral votes are given to the winner of the statewide popular vote, while the other three are given to the victor in each of the state’s three congressional districts. In Maine, two of the state’s four electoral votes go to the winner of the popular vote, while the other two are split between its two congressional districts.
In the 2020 presidential election, for only the second time since it adopted this system in 1991, Nebraska split its electoral votes between the two candidates on the ballot. Donald Trump won the state and its first and third congressional districts, while Joe Biden won the second congressional district, representing the city of Lincoln and parts of Omaha.
Biden won that election with 306 electoral votes; the Nebraska elector did not make a difference. But in an exceedingly close election — say, an election between an unpopular incumbent and an equally unpopular challenger (himself a former incumbent) — it could. Which is why Nebraska Republicans have launched an effort, backed by Trump, to end its quasi-proportional allocation of electoral votes.

Nebraska Republicans seem to know that this move is a vigorous exercise in partisan venality, which is why they’ve tried to defend it with a time-honored appeal to the founding fathers. “It would bring Nebraska in line with 48 of our fellow states, better reflect the founders’ intent, and ensure our state speaks with one unified voice in presidential elections,” Gov. Jim Pillen, a Republican, wrote in a statement. (Trump called it “a very smart letter.”)

It is well within the rights of the Nebraska Legislature to adopt the winner-take-all system that most other states use to allocate electors. But I am less interested in the substance of the change than I am in the justification for the decision. That is the common, even ubiquitous, idea that the current form of the Electoral College represents the original intent of the drafters and ratifiers of the Constitution. The problem is simple: It’s not true.








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When Trump suggested he would not push for a federal limit on abortion Monday, Pence called it a “slap in the face to the millions of pro-life Americans who voted for him.” When Trump sent mixed signals on continued Chinese ownership of the social network TikTok, Pence launched a $2 million ad campaign through a nonprofit he founded demanding a Senate vote to force a sale or shutdown of the service.

“Donald Trump is pursuing an agenda that is at odds with the conservative agenda that we governed on during our four years, which is why I cannot in good conscience endorse Donald Trump in this campaign,” Pence said last month.
 

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More to the point: he’s a cowardly politician
Well that’s not true. So if the guy wasn’t running for president this thread would not exist?

But the other guy claims he's a devout Catholic and if we believe him we know that’s anti-abortion period! Except he's proven that he just does what he's told or he will get in “trouble”.

We all know there's an invisible hand running the country that even the president is afraid of and you guys seen to be afraid of it too.

Why

Don't you know you can vote the guy out and elect someone who's not afraid?

Even if one party controled the legeslature a common sense president should remain neutral.
 
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Random Guy

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Well that’s not true. So if the guy wasn’t running for president this thread would not exist?

But the other guy claims he's a devout Catholic and if we believe him we know that’s anti-abortion period! Except he's proven that he just does what he's told or he will get in “trouble”.

We all know there's an invisible hand running the country that even the president is afraid of and you guys seen to be afraid of it too.

Why

Don't you know you can vote the guy out and elect someone who's not afraid?

Even if one party controled the legeslature a common sense president should remain neutral.
Whose hand?

Some Devout Catholics may choose to not subject others to their beliefs
We have a separation between church and state for a reason
 
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Well that’s not true. So if the guy wasn’t running for president this thread would not exist?

But the other guy claims he's a devout Catholic and if we believe him we know that’s anti-abortion period! Except he's proven that he just does what he's told or he will get in “trouble”.

We all know there's an invisible hand running the country that even the president is afraid of and you guys seen to be afraid of it too.

Why

Don't you know you can vote the guy out and elect someone who's not afraid?

Even if one party controled the legeslature a common sense president should remain neutral.
None of what you said made any sense.