14 Students and a teacher dead at a Texas Elementary School

[Duffy LaCoronilla]

We are the only modern, industrialized nation with this problem.

Mass Shootings by Country 2022

worldpopulationreview.com

Average (Mean) Annual Death Rate per Million People from Mass Public Shootings (U.S., Canada, and Europe, 2009-2015):

1. Norway — 1.888
2. Serbia — 0.381
3. France — 0.347
4. Macedonia — 0.337
5. Albania — 0.206
6. Slovakia — 0.185
7. Switzerland — 0.142
8. Finland — 0.132
9. Belgium — 0.128
10. Czech Republic — 0.123
11. United States — 0.089
12. Austria — 0.068
13. Netherlands — 0.051
14. Canada — 0.032
15. England — 0.027
16. Germany — 0.023
17. Russia — 0.012
18. Italy — 0.009

 

[VonMeister]

I believe he has jumped out of a perfectly good airplane while brandishing an assault rifle. Assaulting people.

To be precise, black and brown people...and to the best of my knowledge none of the weapons I've used are available in gun stores or are even legal in the US.

 

[VonMeister]

Mass Shootings by Country 2022

worldpopulationreview.com

Average (Mean) Annual Death Rate per Million People from Mass Public Shootings (U.S., Canada, and Europe, 2009-2015):

1. Norway — 1.888
2. Serbia — 0.381
3. France — 0.347
4. Macedonia — 0.337
5. Albania — 0.206
6. Slovakia — 0.185
7. Switzerland — 0.142
8. Finland — 0.132
9. Belgium — 0.128
10. Czech Republic — 0.123
11. United States — 0.089
12. Austria — 0.068
13. Netherlands — 0.051
14. Canada — 0.032
15. England — 0.027
16. Germany — 0.023
17. Russia — 0.012
18. Italy — 0.009

Data is so inconvenient.

 

[Duffy LaCoronilla]

Assault rifles only good for inflicting maximum carnage…

Which is precisely why private ownership of these guns is especially in need of constitutional protection.

 

[ElOgro]

Kid should have been aborted. All banning abortion will do is create more of these people.

That’s stupid. Even for you.

 

[Duffy LaCoronilla]

Soros paid for the them? Or was the shooting faked in a TV studio? Still waiting for Rogans talking points?

What are even talking about?

It seems like a possibility that someone else paid for the guns. Wouldn’t it be reasonable to find out who?

What does Soros and the rest of your babble have to do with what I posted?

 

[ElOgro]

He’s 18, he qualified for credit cards? Maybe he was saving his paper route money for years? Maybe he stole? Maybe he pawned off his grandmothers sh!t behind her back? Junkies always manage to come up with money for drugs, where there’s a will there’s a way.

Maybe if his mother had aborted him?

 

[Ifallalot]

Fxd.

youre having a massive meltdown over this pal.

Meltdown? LMAO

Another armchair psych!

You haven’t realized I’m usually grinning ear to ear thinking about how you and your buddies are going to gnash their teeth and pull their hair over my posts?

 

[Ifallalot]

Maybe if his mother had aborted him?

It’s the solution and why we must keep abortion legal for any reason until 3 months past birth

 

[Aruka]

Mass Shootings by Country 2022

worldpopulationreview.com

Average (Mean) Annual Death Rate per Million People from Mass Public Shootings (U.S., Canada, and Europe, 2009-2015):

1. Norway — 1.888
2. Serbia — 0.381
3. France — 0.347
4. Macedonia — 0.337
5. Albania — 0.206
6. Slovakia — 0.185
7. Switzerland — 0.142
8. Finland — 0.132
9. Belgium — 0.128
10. Czech Republic — 0.123
11. United States — 0.089
12. Austria — 0.068
13. Netherlands — 0.051
14. Canada — 0.032
15. England — 0.027
16. Germany — 0.023
17. Russia — 0.012
18. Italy — 0.009

From your link, and i'm sure you left this part off just by accident:
Statistics under scrutiny: Why some experts disagree with the CRPC report on mass shooters
As eye-opening as the CRPC study was, many statisticians believe the reason the results seem so counterintuitive is that they’re incorrect. One of the more detailed analyses appeared on the fact-checking website snopes.com and concluded that the CRPC report used “inappropriate statistical methods” which led to misleading results.

According to the snopes analysis, one of those inappropriate methods was the leaving out of the many European countries that had not experienced a single mass shooting between 2009-2015. This data would not have changed the position of the U.S. on the list, but its absence could lead a reader to believe—incorrectly—that the U.S. experienced fewer mass shooting fatalities per capita than all but a handful of countries in Europe. A more important oversight, again according to snopes, was the report's use of average deaths per capita instead of a more stable metric. Thanks to the smaller populations of most European countries, individual events in those countries had statistically oversized influence and warped the results. For example, Norway’s world-leading annual rate was due to a single devastating 2011 event, in which far-right extremist Anders Behring Breivik gunned down 69 people at a summer camp on the island of Utøya. Norway had zero mass shootings in 2009, 2010, 2012, 2013, 2014, and 2015.

An easy, though arguably insensitive, way to illustrate the shortcomings of this approach is to imagine it applied to the 9/11 attacks, which killed 2,977 people in the United States on a single day in 2001. Running that data through the CRPC formula yields the following statistic: Plane hijackings by terrorists caused an average of 297.7 deaths per year in the U.S. from 2001-2010. This is mathematically accurate, but it paints a badly distorted picture of what actually happened during those ten years.

In addition, the CRPC study went a step further and computed average annual deaths per capita. Critics argue this further warps the data, because Norway’s population is a fraction of the U.S. population. As a result, Norway’s death rate came out more than 20 times higher than that of the U.S.—which tallied 66 deaths in 2012 alone (nearly matching Norway's total for the full study) and averaged at least one death per month for the entire seven-year data set.

A possible better alternative to the CPRC mass shooter report
The snopes analysis goes on to suggest that instead of computing the average, or mean mass shooting deaths, a better method would be to compute the median, or typical, number of deaths. The median is considered by many statisticians to be better at preventing individual outlier events (such as the Norway massacre) from skewing results, which leads to a more accurate day-to-day impression and country-to-country comparison. Using the CPRC’s own data and more precise per-year population data from World Bank (the original study used only 2015 population data) to solve for the median, the snopes analysis results in a notably different list:

Typical (Median) Annual Death Rate per Million People from Mass Public Shootings (U.S., Canada, and Europe, 2009-2015):

1. United States — 0.058
2. Albania — 0
3. Austria — 0
4. Belgium — 0
5. Czech Republic — 0
6. Finland — 0
7. France — 0
8. Germany — 0
9. Italy — 0
10. Macedonia — 0
11. Netherlands — 0
12. Norway — 0
13. Russia — 0
14. Serbia — 0
15. Slovakia — 0
16. Switzerland — 0
17. United Kingdom — 0

Using the median analysis, the United States is the only country examined that shows a propensity for mass shootings. The data itself supports this interpretation, as the United States endured mass shooting events all seven years, but the other countries all experienced mass shootings during only one or two years. Thus, in a typical year, most countries experience zero mass shooting deaths, while the US experiences at least a few.

 

[VonMeister]

Gun culture is so stupid. Assault rifles in a civilian context? Give me a break. There's nothing wrong with occasionally needing to fulfill some childhood escapist hero fantasies but how about just playing with your GI Joes or something?

Assault rifles only good for inflicting maximum carnage in the hands of a disturbed youth or virtue signaling to overgrown children by other tactical cosplayers such as the police officers of Uvalde.

There is nothing unique in the gun he used vs any hunting rifle you can buy. Civilian "assault" rifles are just hunting rifles in drag.

 

[Ifallalot]

IMHO I’m not much of a gamer but in my limited interaction with online gaming it’s a bunch of 13yr olds talking sh!t and threatening each other normalizing trolling, racism and homophobia. The amount of times you hear the words “nigger“ and “faggot” in those audio feeds is pretty sad and far worse than any of the violent content in the games themselves. I grew up watching Rambo, Terminator, etc. The violence isn’t new.

Faggot was a 1000% normal word for every teenage boy until at least the turn of the century

Don’t pretend like it’s ever carried the same weight as nigger no matter how hard people try

And teenage boys yell things like that because of handwringing reactions of people like you

 

[Duffy LaCoronilla]

From your link, and i'm sure you left this part off just by accident:
Statistics under scrutiny: Why some experts disagree with the CRPC report on mass shooters
As eye-opening as the CRPC study was, many statisticians believe the reason the results seem so counterintuitive is that they’re incorrect. One of the more detailed analyses appeared on the fact-checking website snopes.com and concluded that the CRPC report used “inappropriate statistical methods” which led to misleading results.

According to the snopes analysis, one of those inappropriate methods was the leaving out of the many European countries that had not experienced a single mass shooting between 2009-2015. This data would not have changed the position of the U.S. on the list, but its absence could lead a reader to believe—incorrectly—that the U.S. experienced fewer mass shooting fatalities per capita than all but a handful of countries in Europe. A more important oversight, again according to snopes, was the report's use of average deaths per capita instead of a more stable metric. Thanks to the smaller populations of most European countries, individual events in those countries had statistically oversized influence and warped the results. For example, Norway’s world-leading annual rate was due to a single devastating 2011 event, in which far-right extremist Anders Behring Breivik gunned down 69 people at a summer camp on the island of Utøya. Norway had zero mass shootings in 2009, 2010, 2012, 2013, 2014, and 2015.

An easy, though arguably insensitive, way to illustrate the shortcomings of this approach is to imagine it applied to the 9/11 attacks, which killed 2,977 people in the United States on a single day in 2001. Running that data through the CRPC formula yields the following statistic: Plane hijackings by terrorists caused an average of 297.7 deaths per year in the U.S. from 2001-2010. This is mathematically accurate, but it paints a badly distorted picture of what actually happened during those ten years.

In addition, the CRPC study went a step further and computed average annual deaths per capita. Critics argue this further warps the data, because Norway’s population is a fraction of the U.S. population. As a result, Norway’s death rate came out more than 20 times higher than that of the U.S.—which tallied 66 deaths in 2012 alone (nearly matching Norway's total for the full study) and averaged at least one death per month for the entire seven-year data set.

A possible better alternative to the CPRC mass shooter report
The snopes analysis goes on to suggest that instead of computing the average, or mean mass shooting deaths, a better method would be to compute the median, or typical, number of deaths. The median is considered by many statisticians to be better at preventing individual outlier events (such as the Norway massacre) from skewing results, which leads to a more accurate day-to-day impression and country-to-country comparison. Using the CPRC’s own data and more precise per-year population data from World Bank (the original study used only 2015 population data) to solve for the median, the snopes analysis results in a notably different list:

Typical (Median) Annual Death Rate per Million People from Mass Public Shootings (U.S., Canada, and Europe, 2009-2015):

1. United States — 0.058
2. Albania — 0
3. Austria — 0
4. Belgium — 0
5. Czech Republic — 0
6. Finland — 0
7. France — 0
8. Germany — 0
9. Italy — 0
10. Macedonia — 0
11. Netherlands — 0
12. Norway — 0
13. Russia — 0
14. Serbia — 0
15. Slovakia — 0
16. Switzerland — 0
17. United Kingdom — 0

Using the median analysis, the United States is the only country examined that shows a propensity for mass shootings. The data itself supports this interpretation, as the United States endured mass shooting events all seven years, but the other countries all experienced mass shootings during only one or two years. Thus, in a typical year, most countries experience zero mass shooting deaths, while the US experiences at least a few.

Snopes? Lol.

 

[Ifallalot]

There is nothing unique in the gun he used vs any hunting rifle you can buy. Civilian "assault" rifles are just hunting rifles in drag.

Hunting rifles are vastly more powerful than the “assault” rifles as well

 

[Duffy LaCoronilla]

Faggot was a 1000% normal word for every teenage boy until at least the turn of the century

Don’t pretend like it’s ever carried the same weight as nigger no matter how hard people try

And teenage boys yell things like that because of handwringing reactions of people like you

Participation trophy generation is very thin skinned.

 

[sussle]

Data is so inconvenient.

especially data that is irrelevant to the question at hand. mass shootings by country - 30 years of data, school shootings for 2022 below. we are the only country in the world with this problem.

or how about just school shootings?

 

[plasticbertrand]

Gun culture is so stupid. Assault rifles in a civilian context? Give me a break. There's nothing wrong with occasionally needing to fulfill some childhood escapist hero fantasies but how about just playing with your GI Joes or something?

Assault rifles only good for inflicting maximum carnage in the hands of a disturbed youth or virtue signaling to overgrown children by other tactical cosplayers such as the police officers of Uvalde.

It's mind boggling that grown men would rather see kids shot than give up their mindless gun hobby.

 

[Aruka]

Snopes? Lol.

you post a link as proof of something and then i use the same link to refute your point and now suddenly the source is questionable?

 

[hal9000]

Mass Shootings by Country 2022

worldpopulationreview.com

Average (Mean) Annual Death Rate per Million People from Mass Public Shootings (U.S., Canada, and Europe, 2009-2015):

1. Norway — 1.888
2. Serbia — 0.381
3. France — 0.347
4. Macedonia — 0.337
5. Albania — 0.206
6. Slovakia — 0.185
7. Switzerland — 0.142
8. Finland — 0.132
9. Belgium — 0.128
10. Czech Republic — 0.123
11. United States — 0.089
12. Austria — 0.068
13. Netherlands — 0.051
14. Canada — 0.032
15. England — 0.027
16. Germany — 0.023
17. Russia — 0.012
18. Italy — 0.009

nice attempt, but I guess you didn't read the content of the article.

Violent Death Rates: The US Compared with Other High-income OECD Countries, 2010 - PubMed

The United States has an enormous firearm problem compared with other high-income countries, with higher rates of homicide and firearm-related suicide. Compared with 2003 estimates, the US firearm death rate remains unchanged while firearm death rates in other countries decreased. Thus, the...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

try using credible, reliable sources

 

[plasticbertrand]

Well, America isn't number on on the list for mass shootings/population...not even number 1 in western countries so maybe guns isn't the problem.

Guns don't kill people, people kill people.....if the US outlawed every single gun today there would be a new and significant source of cartel revenue of shipping guns across the southern border. Maybe we should treat the disease and not the symptoms.

It's the American gun culture that's the problem.

And gun culture has guns as it's centerpiece.

Yes, guns don't kill people, people with guns kill people.