I'm sure it's designed around it, think it's more of a personal fin setup preference / or muscle memory even maybe
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Just got a good deal on the newish christenson 5-fin futures. Anyone tried these yet?
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Christenson 5-Fin
The Christenson 5-fin is a new pivot style template for quick in-the-pocket surfing. The quad rears are flat foiled allowing for more speed and release off the top. Template Category - Pivot (tight turns | quick) Construction - Honeycomb Ride Number - Balanced 5.9 – (tri) / 5.0 (quad) Suggested...
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This is the MR twin trailer set up in futures
Nautilus Twin - Apex
Our Nautilus Twins fall into the category of a classic, well-balanced upright twin template. Derived from the tried and true MR style outline that has proven to be a go to for surfers in performance oriented twins for nearly four decades. The Nautilus Twins are a true ‘all around’ upright...
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Anyone with a normal foil make some?This is the MR twin trailer set up in futures
Nautilus Twin - Apex
Our Nautilus Twins fall into the category of a classic, well-balanced upright twin template. Derived from the tried and true MR style outline that has proven to be a go to for surfers in performance oriented twins for nearly four decades. The Nautilus Twins are a true ‘all around’ upright...
closest i could find were the Elmore set which are more like a big MR and the T1 which is a small MR, or so I’ve been told.
@claw87 ... update ... swell came in 3' @ 15sec but at a very steep angle so .... didn't get the energy or size as expected ... still some fun chest-shoulder high lined up waves .... a lot of chop ... 20mph side shore winds ..... fins still felt really good in my Cali Twin for the 2nd session .... couple things i noticed that might be of interest .... the size of the fins really helped stabilize the board in the choppy conditions especially paddling for waves .... the other is there is almost no cant (probably 4deg) but looking at them appear to be pretty straight ..... possibly could be a slight difference on the FCS side of things ...
Food for thought ... was reading that the AMK's were designed for the CI Fishbeard ..... have also read where even though the stock Fishbeard it is a straight twin design the fin boxes are set farther forward (similar to the Cali Twin) than what you would normally expect. There's a You Tube clip with Zeke Lau and Parker Coffin floating around ... on the Fishbeard running the AMKs ..... looks like it goes pretty well with that setup.
Incase anybody was curious, new futures cc keel vs his discontinued older capt fin one.
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So it’s a totally different keel, not just the base shifted. Wild.
lots of shadows in that pic. I think I see it correctly…
lots of shadows in that pic. I think I see it correctly…
Ok, posted a couple of better shots above.
Yeh, I was bummed to see how far back it really moved them and a bit more rake. My Sakal's that have boxes placed for the og keels would all have the fin trailing edge lower than the buttcrack if I stuck those new ones in them. I guess maybe cc is just compensating on the boxes in the newer versions now
. Kind of lame if you need to replace the fins on an older one though.
Yeh, I was bummed to see how far back it really moved them and a bit more rake. My Sakal's that have boxes placed for the og keels would all have the fin trailing edge lower than the buttcrack if I stuck those new ones in them. I guess maybe cc is just compensating on the boxes in the newer versions now
. Kind of lame if you need to replace the fins on an older one though.
yeah, crazy. I have the new Futures CCs and I sold my old Captain Fin Co ones when I got rid of my Moonstone. The Futures ones look strikingly similar to the Al Merrick Keels now that I'm seeing them lined up with the Captain Fin CCs
Theoretical question for the quad fans out there .... let's say you're trying to dial in a board .... mixing front and rear fins .... you've got it to a point where everything feels good except it is lacking drive to your liking. You want to add more but don't want to make it overly tracky or make it to stiff. What's you're typical first move .... larger or more raked fronts, change the rears only, add a nubster, start over?
I'd go larger/rakeder fronts. For me, the front fins push back when you pump, project, get it down the line, and the rears simmer down the skitter/slide. Note I am mostly riding wider-than-normal boards in dogshit surf.
I would agree above. I could be way off, but I tend to think of the rears as affecting the last 1/3 part of a turn and how it releases out of the turn. For my usual average waves, I tend to like smaller rears like 3.75 or maybe 4.0, which I feel keeps it loose and a bit skatey. Could be all in my head.
YMMV
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Are your rears flat foiled? 50/50? 80/20?
Wide tail? Narrow tail? Medium tail.
Rear fins out toward the rail or closer to the center?
Do you drive off your front foot?
The first thing I would do is change the rears to flat foiled (if they aren't already).
After that, rakier front fin.
I believe the rears i have are 80/20 ..... pulled in tail ... standard 5 fin box placements. The set i've been playing around with is a Roberts med set .... fronts have the V2 foil. I think they are a neutral fin but have a very narrow tip ... the rears are more on the rakier side. I've tried throwing a set of (i hate to say it) large AM2s in front with same rears .... was a disaster .... felt sluggish, no glide, no control. I tried the Machado med thruster fronts (slightly bigger than the Robert's ... bigger tip) felt better than the Roberts but like the Roberts ... not enough drive .... coincidentally the Machado's also have the V2 foil. Maybe it's the V2 foil that is making feel like there is not enough drive ... too much lift in turns possibly? BTW - i drive off my rear foot. Yesterday, i picked up a set of Future Shaper5 quad rears ... appear to be flat foiled from what i can tell ... a little taller than the Roberts but still more of a raked template. I also plan to pick up a Rasta quad set .... but was curious on how other's go about dialing in their quad fin setup.
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What was the last board you clicked with well & what was the fin setup on it?