Do You Believe Covid was a lab manipulated virus that somehow got out of a lab? Anonymous Poll.

Do you believe Covid was a lab manipulated virus that somehow got out of a lab?

  • Yes it was.

  • No it wasn't.


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Aruka

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I doubt we will ever know whether covid came from a lab or from nature. I do think the lab leak theory is plausible and deserved/deserves more scrutiny. Reading about it there was so much shady stuff going on with the wuhan lab and all of these self interested non profits and government agencies. I just don't know how many coincidences I am willing to accept without becoming a bit skeptical.

If it wasn't created in a lab it sure wasn't for lack of trying.
 

grapedrink

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May 21, 2011
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at this point does it matter? it got out, it spread. now please stfu about it already so the rest of us can go with our lives.
How is discussing the issue preventing you from moving on :unsure: Sounds like a personal problem.

Let's not forget that it has been mostly democrat leadership that has dragged this thing out far past its expiration date, and is even revisiting the idea of mask mandates and pushing for vaccination at younger ages.
 

CutnSnip

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How is discussing the issue preventing you from moving on :unsure: Sounds like a personal problem.

Let's not forget that it has been mostly democrat leadership that has dragged this thing out far past its expiration date, and is even revisiting the idea of mask mandates and pushing for vaccination at younger ages.
im just like many people over it. would like to move past it, thats all. its currently putting a damper on my TG becuz my sis got it, and for the first time in 42 years we're not having TG as a family so i got that bit of news yesterday and was wore a little thin by it, and this particular niche has been beating to death here and we dont have any new news so just more baseless assumptions by everyone.

and sure the libs are dragging it out, but only the conservatives here seem to start threads a bout it. either way. just over it!
 

grapedrink

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im just like many people over it. would like to move past it, thats all. its currently putting a damper on my TG becuz my sis got it, and for the first time in 42 years we're not having TG as a family so i got that bit of news yesterday and was wore a little thin by it, and this particular niche has been beating to death here and we dont have any new news so just more baseless assumptions by everyone.

and sure the libs are dragging it out, but only the conservatives here seem to start threads a bout it. either way. just over it!
Sorry to hear that man, that sucks. I’ve done some orphans christmases and thanksgivings myself, but they were all by choice until Covid. From then I went almost 2 years without seeing my immediate family.

What gets to me is that that “just get over it already” crowd, who is also asking for “amnesty” ( :roflmao: ), tends to be of the same ilk who insisted on dragging all things Covid out the longest and to the greatest extreme. Now they want forgiveness because all of the rules they pushed for have been proven to be mostly ineffective, because practically everyone got Covid anyway. Sad!

Hope you got some good booze, buds and grinds to tide you over. Treat yo self :beer: Probably a good night for app pervin too :dancing:
 

One-Off

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Fauci rerouted a large portion of his recurring NIH NIAID budget to Peter Daszak and the EcoHealth Alliance in Boston. Daszak ran a lab for developing and mutating coraviruses at UNC Chapel Hill. Congress found out and started investigating. Daszak relocated his samples to Canada, I think UBC, until he could find another lab. The only lab which would take the work was in Wuhan, China.

The Alpha variant was not as deadly as it could have been, so I'm guessing that it escaped the Wuhan lab early. The intended virus was the [Edit: Delta] version, reported to have come out of South Africa. In reality it came from a South African international African conference of health officials. One of the central African delegations had just visited one of the Ukrainian labs mentioned in Hunter Biden's laptop, and they were sick.

My best guess about the Wuhan escape relies on human nature in a socialist system. After exposure and testing lab monkeys the lab leader was supposed to euthanize the monkeys. Instead, he sold them at the Wuhan wet market.
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It's amazing how you link Fauci, China, Africans, Ukraine, Hunter Biden's laptop and socializm into on big ball of conspiracy. Impressive.:applause2:

ps Maybe add a Hillary element into it. She had to have something to do with it.
 

Mike_Jones

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It's amazing how you link Fauci, China, Africans, Ukraine, Hunter Biden's laptop and socializm into on big ball of conspiracy. Impressive.

Because, thanks to you and your accomplices, that's the depraved world we find ourselves in.
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StuAzole

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Jan 22, 2016
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It's amazing how you link Fauci, China, Africans, Ukraine, Hunter Biden's laptop and socializm into on big ball of conspiracy. Impressive.:applause2:

ps Maybe add a Hillary element into it. She had to have something to do with it.
And poor Trump was in the dark the entire time!
 
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hammies

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I doubt we will ever know whether covid came from a lab or from nature. I do think the lab leak theory is plausible and deserved/deserves more scrutiny. Reading about it there was so much shady stuff going on with the wuhan lab and all of these self interested non profits and government agencies. I just don't know how many coincidences I am willing to accept without becoming a bit skeptical.

If it wasn't created in a lab it sure wasn't for lack of trying.
OK, so a proper discussion would be what changes should we make in our national policies based on whether ir not it was created in a lab or wet market? Just assigning blame doesn't really change anything other than enabling certain people to pound their chests and spout online, "See! See! I was right all along!!!!!"
 

hal9000

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OK, so a proper discussion would be what changes should we make in our national policies based on whether ir not it was created in a lab or wet market? Just assigning blame doesn't really change anything other than enabling certain people to pound their chests and spout online, "See! See! I was right all along!!!!!"
except that all the evidence points to zoonosis and that sars-cov-2 originated in the Wuhan market.
 

Mike_Jones

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The natural order of mutation in fast-moving, rapidly-mutating human viruses is that the virus becomes more transmissible and less lethal. It is not in a virus' best interest to kill its host. The virus strains which do not kill their hosts get transmitted to other people. Virus strains which kill their hosts die with their hosts.

We're supposed to believe that COVID-19 mutated from the less-lethal, less-transmissible alpha variant to the more-lethal, more-transmissible delta variant. Doing that is very unusual. SARS CoV-1 died out in Asia simply because it mutated to be less lethal and less virulent.
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Mike_Jones

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OK, so a proper discussion would be what changes should we make in our national policies based on whether ir not it was created in a lab or wet market?

Duh. Stop spending taxpayer money for our elected officials and public servants to make viruses which kill us. Why it's necessary to tell someone that is ridiculous.

Just assigning blame doesn't really change anything other than enabling certain people to pound their chests and spout online, "See! See! I was right all along!!!!!"

In a social setting it should not be necessary to verbally link obvious causes to bad outcomes, except that some people's massive egos won't allow them to admit that their demented world views are wrong.
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StuAzole

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I actually added some relevant content.

Your contribution was…

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Did you? If it came from a Chinese lab the hope would be China would study how to not repeat the event. Unless they did it on purpose. Either way, what would we do about it? Sanctions? A harsh letter? Nothing?
 
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hal9000

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The natural order of mutation in fast-moving, rapidly-mutating human viruses is that the virus becomes more transmissible and less lethal. It is not in a virus' best interest to kill its host. The virus strains which do not kill their hosts get transmitted to other people. Virus strains which kill their hosts die with their hosts.

We're supposed to believe that COVID-19 mutated from the less-lethal, less-transmissible alpha variant to the more-lethal, more-transmissible delta variant. Doing that is very unusual. SARS CoV-1 died out in Asia simply because it mutated to be less lethal and less virulent.
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How do you explain rabies, ebola, HIV?

also, as to your assertion that SARS CoV-1 went away on its own......wrong as usual. you just make sh!t up to fit your narrative, as always.
 

Mike_Jones

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How do you explain rabies, ebola, HIV?

Are rabies, ebola and HIV "fast-moving, rapidly-mutating human viruses", the qualifiers of my statement? No. No, they are not. So your premise is just a lie.

Rabies is a cross-species virus which gets spread, among other methods, by carrion eaters, making the virus transmissible after death.. Ebola is a cross-species virus which transmits through fluid exchange. One of ebola's biggest vectors in Africa has been the local Muslim custom of kneading the waste from its victims, making the virus transmissible after death. Like COVID, HIV is a human disease. HIV is hard to transmit as it requires fluid exchange either with blood or the intestines. 75-to-1 Its primary vector is between men who have sex with men. The rest are mostly hapless victims of MSM. The solution is to sit down and shut your mouth. Problem solved..


How do you explain rabies, ebola, HIV?

also, as to your assertion that SARS CoV-1 went away on its own......wrong as usual. you just make sh!t up to fit your narrative, as always.

The WHO demonized Trump for shutting down COVID-19 travel and refused to investigate the Wuhan lab. Now you want us to believe the WHO when they take credit for stopping the SARS CoV-1 virus? They had nothing to do with it.
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