*** Official Corona Virus Thread ***

Aruka

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Yesterday at a forested little road side parking spot I was getting ready to put my wetsuit on to go for a surf when I felt a rumble in my belly. I checked my glove box and found no toilet paper or napkins. And then I saw the stack of N95's. Clean and white and soft...

Something powerful happened in those woods and as I emerged I felt lighter and more hopeful than I have in a long time. I really feel like I have finally put this pandemic behind me.
 
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Bohter

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Mr. Doof said...

"And a more in-depth article on how virus is isolated here (click me) which leads me to think Tom Cowan doesn't have his facts straight when he claims"

Re this article...

Forgot to mention that there's zero mention of a control group for the CPE methodology....wouldn't that be important in any scientific experimentation of this kind?

See the video I inserted for more on that.....and would be interested in Mr Doof's assessment of the John Enders paper referenced....where the control group expressed identical particles as the experimental. Hmmmm?

Also....
"From the wells in which CPEs were observed, we performed confirmatory testing by using real-time reverse transcription PCR (CDC)...'

PCR? WTF would that tell you?

Sounds impressive though.....
 

Bohter

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Statement on Virus Isolation (SOVI)
Isolation:

“The action of isolating; the fact or condition of being isolated or standing alone; separation from other things or persons; solitariness.”

— From the Oxford English Dictionary

The controversy over whether the SARS-CoV-2 virus has ever been isolated or purified continues. However, using the above definition, common sense, the laws of logic and the dictates of science, any unbiased person must come to the conclusion that the SARS-CoV-2 virus has never been isolated or purified. As a result, no confirmation of the virus’ existence can be found. The logical, common sense, and scientific consequences of this fact are:
  • - the structure and composition of something not shown to exist can’t be known, including the presence, structure, and function of any hypothetical spike or other proteins;
  • - the genetic sequence of something that has never been found can’t be known;
  • - “variants” of something that hasn’t been shown to exist can’t be known;
  • - it’s impossible to demonstrate that SARS-CoV-2 causes a disease called Covid-19.
    In as concise terms as possible, here’s the proper way to isolate, characterize and demonstrate a new virus. First, one takes samples (blood, sputum, secretions) from many people (e.g. 500) with symptoms which are unique and specific enough to characterize an illness. Without mixing these samples with ANY tissue or products that also contain genetic material, the virologist macerates, filters and ultracentrifuges i.e. purifies the specimen. This common virology technique, done for decades to isolate bacteriophages1 and so-called giant viruses in every virology lab, then allows the virologist to demonstrate with electron microscopy thousands of identically sized and shaped particles. These particles are the isolated and purified virus.
These identical particles are then checked for uniformity by physical and/or microscopic techniques. Once the purity is determined, the particles may be further characterized. This would include examining the structure, morphology, and chemical composition of the particles. Next, their genetic makeup is characterized by extracting the genetic material directly from the purified particles and using genetic-sequencing techniques, such as Sanger sequencing, that have also been around for decades. Then one does an analysis to confirm that these uniform particles are exogenous (outside) in origin as a virus is conceptualized to be, and not the normal breakdown products of dead and dying tissues.2 (As of May 2020, we know that virologists have no way to determine whether the particles they’re seeing are viruses or just normal break-down products of dead and dying tissues.

If we have come this far then we have fully isolated, characterized, and genetically sequenced an exogenous virus particle. However, we still have to show it is causally related to a disease. This is carried out by exposing a group of healthy subjects (animals are usually used) to this isolated, purified virus in the manner in which the disease is thought to be transmitted. If the animals get sick with the same disease, as confirmed by clinical and autopsy findings, one has now shown that the virus actually causes a disease. This demonstrates infectivity and transmission of an infectious agent.
None of these steps has even been attempted with the SARS-CoV-2 virus, nor have all these steps been successfully performed for any so-called pathogenic virus. Our research indicates that a single study showing these steps does not exist in the medical literature.

Instead, since 1954, virologists have taken unpurified samples from a relatively few people, often less than ten, with a similar disease. They then minimally process this sample and inoculate this unpurified sample onto tissue culture containing usually four to six other types of material — all of which contain identical genetic material as to what is called a “virus.” The tissue culture is starved and poisoned and naturally disintegrates into many types of particles, some of which contain genetic material. Against all common sense, logic, use of the English language and scientific integrity, this process is called “virus isolation.” This brew containing fragments of genetic material from many sources is then subjected to genetic analysis, which then creates in a computer-simulation process the alleged sequence of the alleged virus, a so called in silico genome. At no time is an actual virus confirmed by electron microscopy. At no time is a genome extracted and sequenced from an actual virus. This is scientific fraud.

The observation that the unpurified specimen — inoculated onto tissue culture along with toxic antibiotics, bovine fetal tissue, amniotic fluid and other tissues — destroys the kidney tissue onto which it is inoculated is given as evidence of the virus’ existence and pathogenicity. This is scientific fraud.
From now on, when anyone gives you a paper that suggests the SARS- CoV-2 virus has been isolated, please check the methods sections. If the researchers used Vero cells or any other culture method, you know that their process was not isolation. You will hear the following excuses for why actual isolation isn’t done:
  1. 1 There were not enough virus particles found in samples from patients to analyze.
  2. 2 Viruses are intracellular parasites ;they can’t be found outside the cell in this manner.
If No. 1 is correct, and we can’t find the virus in the sputum of sick people, then on what evidence do we think the virus is dangerous or even lethal? If No. 2 is correct, then how is the virus spread from person to person? We are told it emerges from the cell to infect others. Then why isn’t it possible to find it?
Finally, questioning these virology techniques and conclusions is not some distraction or divisive issue. Shining the light on this truth is essential to stop this terrible fraud that humanity is confronting. For, as we now know, if the virus has never been isolated, sequenced or shown to cause illness, if the virus is imaginary, then why are we wearing masks, social distancing and putting the whole world into prison?

Finally, if pathogenic viruses don’t exist, then what is going into those injectable devices erroneously called “vaccines,” and what is their purpose? This scientific question is the most urgent and relevant one of our time.

We are correct. The SARS-CoV2 virus does not exist.

Sally Fallon Morell, MA Dr. Thomas Cowan, MD Dr. Andrew Kaufman, MD

1 Isolation, characterization and analysis of bacteriophages from the haloalkaline lake Elmenteita, KenyaJuliah Khayeli Akhwale et al, PLOS One, Published: April 25, 2019. https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0215734 -- accessed 2/15/21

2 “Extracellular Vesicles Derived From Apoptotic Cells: An Essential Link Between Death and Regeneration,” Maojiao Li1 et al, Frontiers in Cell and Developmental Biology, 2020 October 2. https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fcell.2020.573511/full -- accessed 2/15/21

3 “The Role of Extraellular Vesicles as Allies of HIV, HCV and SARS Viruses,” Flavia Giannessi, et al, Viruses, 2020
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You need to build steel men and attack those.

Otherwise you are lost.

It's all narrow frames to support an extraordinary claim and ineffective rebuttals.

Do you not see this?

Thank you for allowing me to study your thought patterns.

It's helped me increase my awareness of the workings of the human mind.
 
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afoaf

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this is just more stupid word games around isolation premised on a fundamental
misunderstanding of how things work

just like Koch's postulates...formulated before host-dependent viruses had even
been conceived of, let alone identified

just like 5g...

just like terrain theory...

did we prove the global conspiracy to hide the fact that the world is flat or are we
still looking at stupid photos and watching youtube videos created for tween boys?

we have a vaccine. my kids are full time. business is good. we may go to Spain in the
fall.

aloha no great reset!
 

SurfFuerteventura

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Afoaf, we just got 5g out here.

All of a sudden everything is different.

No more logging in, walking away, doing some chores, coming back to see if the twin copper cable has produced anything onscreen yet.

No more getting Netflix, nor YouTube, "warmed up" on pause before enjoying video/sound that skips to "please wait while we buffer".

Mom, and wife, are fully vaccinated. I'm waiting for next year, only people I come across are in the water, and if they get less than 6 feet away, they're getting the noseof my 9ft longboard up their arnus or pepis.

By the way, fall isa great time to visit. Just bring your rubbers, board selections await you're arrival!

:waving::shaka:
 
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afoaf

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Afoaf, we just got 5g out here.

All of a sudden everything is different.

No more logging in, walking away, doing some chores, coming back to see if the twin copper cable has produced anything onscreen yet.

No more getting Netflix, nor YouTube, "warmed up" on pause before enjoying video/sound that skips to "please wait while we buffer".

Mom, and wife, are fully vaccinated. I'm waiting for next year, only people I come across are in the water, and if they get less than 6 feet away, they're getting the noseof my 9ft longboard up their arnus or pepis.

By the way, fall isa great time to visit. Just bring your rubbers, board selections await you're arrival!

:waving::shaka:
HELL. YEAH. BRO.
 

Senor Sopa

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Yesterday at a forested little road side parking spot I was getting ready to put my wetsuit on to go for a surf when I felt a rumble in my belly. I checked my glove box and found no toilet paper or napkins. And then I saw the stack of N95's. Clean and white and soft...

Something powerful happened in those woods and as I emerged I felt lighter and more hopeful than I have in a long time. I really feel like I have finally put this pandemic behind me.
That's why they're called face diapers.
 
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Bohter

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Re London recently....

 
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Autoprax

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You seem confused again.

Can I suggest you put this meme in standard form to help you discover your faulty premise?

I could tell you but it's better if you figure it out on your own.

Please disregard this suggestion if you are intentionally being stupid.

Thanks

And have great Saturday!
 
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Bohter

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I'm really curious as to what's going to happen come next flu season.....

But as Neils Bohr said - Prediction is difficult....especially about the future.

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Comment below the vid below.....UK talk show drama.....

"Three against one; gang-bang mentality. Facts don't matter, only the consensus matters. We all believe and so it must be true, even if the facts don't back it up; consensus is more factual than actual facts..."

 
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