Keep it up.
I didn't read this, but if it blows somebody's skirt up, happy joy to you.
https://deadline.com/2020/09/the-daily-wire-ben-shapiro-jeremy-boeing-1234577589/
Let's get CA back down to 5 million people and a LOT more bearable.
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The Jordan Peterson Thread
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Let's get CA back down to 5 million people and a LOT more bearable.
These aren't editorial journals. Scientists don't "support" one another. They test hypotheses. They tear each other down as a profession. Being cited means you're worthy of mention. Chomsky's h-index is for linguistics since he shattered BF Skinner and revolutionized the whole deal. It's apolitical (as it can be). If your academic department ends in the word "studies" then it's a different corner of the world, a different story and, uh, have a merry day. Please don't train me.Just because he gets cited does not mean it is support.
boy, she just really tries to lay traps all over the place
weird interview
I like parts of the talk...I've never really listened to this guy before
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I don't know if he's racist, I do know that politically he's at minimum incoherent and possibly straight up lying. I don't care for self-help psychology so I have not comment except that IMHO all of it is fuckin stupid.
You support ideas or challenge them or have those ideas you cite to support your own. It is not all about tearing down.
Chomsky was cited 11K plus for Manufacturing Consent, which is not about linguistics. He is academically known for more than his linguistic works.
Hard science is apolitical,
, they always were the 'real' scientists. Why don't you apply some hard science to Jordans work
That's fine. Calling something stupid, whether it's deserved or not, is a far cry from calling that person racist and trying to shut them down. Let alone engaging someone you disagree with on fair ground and challenging their actual ideas, which is what we should be encouraging.
I guess I was overgeneralizing. If you're being cited in a peer reviewed actually scientific journal, then you have earned your place support or refute. You're right, it's not about tearing down. But it's not about supporting either. It's about arriving at some truth and consensus. It's competitive. "Manufacturing Consent" is pretty cool, I think their empirical part was comparing column inches in the NYT and WaPo between coverage of the conflicts in Cambodia and East Timor. Cambodia of course had more coverage because they were evil commies. Atrocities abounded. Anyway this doesn't make JP or NC more or less of a scholar. But you're right, citation is not some sort of approval or negation. It just is. I know a lot of academics and they are more careful about their citations than their sentences by far. In short: to say Peterson is not a legit academic is disingenuous. Some righties say the same about Chomsky. They are idiots.You support ideas or challenge them or have those ideas you cite to support your own. It is not all about tearing down.
Chomsky was cited 11K plus for Manufacturing Consent, which is not about linguistics. He is academically known for more than his linguistic works.
Hard science is apolitical,
Why don't you apply some hard science to Jordans work
Example?
And please post a link where he said...*corporate HR departments are out to destroy capitalism.*
So you wanted an intellectual debate? lololo
You are clearly the elder statesman around here, Clark.
Interesting guy and makes a lot of sometimes good, sometimes bad points. But his tendency towards hyperbole really gets in the way of whatever message he's trying to send. A guy like Jon Haidt makes somewhat similar points but infinitely less divisively and much more effectively.
Who said anything about racism?
It's good to have you white knighting for scumbags tho, as per usual.
MARXISS
"I don’t think there is a great deal of unjust discrimination against women in comparison to the degree of unjust discrimination against men."
Of course that's not verbatim. Are you offended? You seem to have a lot personally invested in this guy.
"[the HR departments] become ethics departments. And people who take to themselves the right to determine the propriety of ethical conduct end up with a lot more power — especially if you cede it to them — than you think. And that’s happening at a very rapid rate.
The doctrines that are driving hiring decisions, for example — any emphasis, for example, on equity, or equality of outcome — it’s unbelievably dangerous. You don’t just pull that in and signal to society that you’re now acting virtuously without bringing in the whole pathological ideology."
Fixed.
2:46 - "I'm not saying anything."
No sh|t.
Listen to how many times he back-pedals. I can only make it through about 5 minutes of this, it's nauseating and amazing that anyone takes this guy seriously. His rhetoric is juvenile at best.
Paging Autoprax. I gotta hear your take on the above.
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AKADEMIK
When asked in the debate to explain his beliefs about the Christian faith, Peterson said: "I would definitely describe myself as a religious man. There's no doubt about that."
"As a westerner I am conditioned in every cell from the Judaeo Christian world view. I live my life to the best of my ability as though God exists.
"That's the fundamental hallmark of belief, it is how you act, it's not what you say about what you think you think."
I'm sure God is stoked on him taunting women and transgenderz online.
When asked in the debate to explain his beliefs about the Christian faith, Peterson said: "I would definitely describe myself as a religious man. There's no doubt about that."
"As a westerner I am conditioned in every cell from the Judaeo Christian world view. I live my life to the best of my ability as though God exists.
"That's the fundamental hallmark of belief, it is how you act, it's not what you say about what you think you think."
I'm sure God is stoked on him taunting women and transgenderz online.
I love how he thinks he knows what women want.
It's about male domination, women love it.
(Yellowman beat)
How is a reggaemon spose to move along?
Consult de wisdom of de alien head bong
Consult de wisdom of FecalFace mon
He ridin his bike I say top of de morn
GDaddy cause all de Autoprax scorn
Me try be fe like Kento make joke and de song.
I tried to make it 10 minutes into that video on BBC, just couldn't do it. Dude is the posterboi for smug, Eddie Haskell of academia.