Twitter > Gab > Parler

[afoaf]

I don't think it is that clearcut, they seem to arbitrarily apply their community standards stuff and it'd appear the right gets the banhammer there more frequently than the left.

disagree

500 million tweets daily - it's algorithmic with some manual intervention when someone
throws a tizzy

I have not seen solid example of Twitter cutting someone off because they said that
free market capitalism is better than democratic socialism...

Also, you can't say that a man is not a woman.

disagree again. empirically, you can.

to wit, JK Rowling is still on Twitter....look to her for examples on how to debate a
topic without devolving in to personal attacks and harassment

why people insist on arguing the merits of transgenderism on twitter, deadnaming
people and such, is totally beyond me...I certainly understand why they categorize
it as harassment and do not tolerate it when it becomes personal and not rhetorical

 

[grapedrink]

disagree

500 million tweets daily - it's algorithmic with some manual intervention when someone
throws a tizzy

I have not seen solid example of Twitter cutting someone off because they said that
free market capitalism is better than democratic socialism...



disagree again. empirically, you can.

to wit, JK Rowling is still on Twitter....look to her for examples on how to debate a
topic without devolving in to personal attacks and harassment

why people insist on arguing the merits of transgenderism on twitter, deadnaming
people and such, is totally beyond me...I certainly understand why they categorize
it as harassment and do not tolerate it when it becomes personal and not rhetorical

It’s also a factual statement. The woman who got banned for it said it in the context of a discussion, not as a direct attack on an individual.

 

[Ifallalot]

why were conservative voices shouting about some mass exodus from Twitter to Parler just a few weeks ago? Pretty sure clowns lime Nunes, Gaetz and Cruz were touting at as some sort of safe space for conservatives.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1276191133715107844

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1276200378296664066

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1276180808538230785

Those are all Establishment losers

Parler is silencing anyone who doesn’t toe the approved Repub line, that’s what I meant by worse than Twitter

Also, “a few weeks” might as well be years in 2020

 

[the janitor]

disagree

500 million tweets daily - it's algorithmic with some manual intervention when someone
throws a tizzy

I have not seen solid example of Twitter cutting someone off because they said that
free market capitalism is better than democratic socialism...

agree on mostly algorithmic with some manual intervention, but therein lies the problem. SFtech is a monoculture when it comes to politics, so the humans making the tough calls are likely tightly unified in their view on what should or shouldn't be allowed

 

[afoaf]

It’s also a factual statement. The woman who got banned for it said it in the context of a discussion, not as a direct attack on an individual.

incorrect

(if you are referring to the case which I think you are)

it was part of an extensive pattern of abuse targeted at a specific individual
which included deadnaming which is forbidden.

I could be wrong...I'm open to that possibility, but, at time of writing, each of
these bans are rooted in personal attacks and harassment and NOT any one
discrete statement.

 

[afoaf]

agree on mostly algorithmic with some manual intervention, but therein lies the problem. SFtech is a monoculture when it comes to politics, so the humans making the tough calls are likely tightly unified in their view on what should or shouldn't be allowed

this is a cop-out...they are under the fkn microscope.

I don't disagree with your point about monoculture, but as it relates to the policing of content, I have
not seen a compelling argument made and substantiated that demonstrates overtly biased policing

 

[grapedrink]

incorrect

(if you are referring to the case which I think you are)

it was part of an extensive pattern of abuse targeted at a specific individual
which included deadnaming which is forbidden.

I could be wrong...I'm open to that possibility, but, at time of writing, each of
these bans are rooted in personal attacks and harassment and NOT any one
discrete statement.

Megan Murphy.

I haven’t read the exact transcript of the actual twitter feed. Although from what I’ve gathered, the supposed “victim” was a transperson who was targeting small salon/business owners who refused to wax his/her nutsack. Those who refused became the target of his/her smear campaign.

Therefore if it was a “personal attack”, and this person was doing what was described, it was probably deserved.

 

[afoaf]

Megan Murphy.

I haven’t read the exact transcript of the actual twitter feed. Although from what I’ve gathered, the supposed “victim” was a transperson who was targeting small salon/business owners who refused to wax his/her nutsack. Those who refused became the target of his/her smear campaign.

Therefore if it was a “personal attack”, and this person was doing what was described, it was probably deserved.

like I said....

the target was obviously a POS, but their policy is pretty clearcut

We prohibit targeting individuals with repeated slurs, tropes or other content that intends to dehumanize, degrade or reinforce negative or harmful stereotypes about a protected category. This includes targeted misgendering or deadnaming of transgender individuals.​

​

We also prohibit the dehumanization of a group of people based on their religion, age, disability, or serious disease.​

 

[grapedrink]

I don't disagree that it was against the terms, but do you not think that a lifetime ban, especially in the context, is a bit heavy handed?

 

[afoaf]

with respect, sir, how can one say something is heavy handed or not after also
conceding that they "haven’t read the exact transcript of the actual twitter feed"?

I'd be willing to bet dollars to donuts there was a pattern and multiple warnings
before they decided to levy a lifetime ban

ultimately, it's a lifetime ban from...Twitter.

how about we just say fk everyone involved in this story, including Twitter?

 

[Sharkbiscuit]

I don't disagree that it was against the terms, but do you not think that a lifetime ban, especially in the context, is a bit heavy handed?

No, it's a fucking social media platform, not the goddamn right to vote.

Fuck every influencer, athlete, artist, socialite, actor, comedian

Okay I refreshed and afoaf covered it. Thank you, afoaf. Fuck twitter and its users.

 

[grapedrink]

with respect, sir, how can one say something is heavy handed or not after also
conceding that they "haven’t read the exact transcript of the actual twitter feed"?

I'd be willing to bet dollars to donuts there was a pattern and multiple warnings
before they decided to levy a lifetime ban

Sounds like you don't know the whole story either. Ultimately the level of punishment seems to be more motivated by wanting to show solidarity with a political ideology than by any harm done by her actual comments, especially in the context of the incident.

How many twitter users were banned for violent comments and threats directed at the Covington kids, even after they were brought to the attention of Twitter? Seems to me that threats against minors should be taken more seriously and would warrant a more zero tolerance approach.

ultimately, it's a lifetime ban from...Twitter.

Agreed, it's not the end of the world, although in some lines of work that can be fairly debilitating. Especially journalism, where you are effectively shut out from a large portion of your audience who may use that as their primary platform. For a journalist, it's the equivalent of Google refusing to show search results for a brick and mortar business.

how about we just say fk everyone involved in this story, including Twitter?

Agreed.

 

[Sharkbiscuit]

Self-Described Feminist Loses Lawsuit Against Twitter For Banning Her Account

Murphy v Twitter (PDF) Murphy v Twitter (Text)

www.techdirt.com

She also posted tweets referring to certain transgender women as "men," which contained personal information about their previous male identities. Twitter gave several warnings to Murphy that these tweets violated its Hateful Conduct Policy before banning her completely.

That's not a journalist. That's a sh!t-starter/stalker with an agenda.

Furthermore, if getting kicked off Twitter is debilitating to your line of work, maybe you should, I dunno, shut the fuck up after twitter warns you? To paraphrase Dave Chappelle's Black Bush "Maybe you should just shut the fuck up. That's what I'd do if I didn't have a social media platform. I'd shut the fuck up."

"I want to go upside the head of this dumb Georgia fan next to me" - probably not going to get auto-deleted, have account auto-suspended, etc. but if someone reports it, you might get warned.

"I want to go upside the head of @UGAfan4TrumpMAGA" - Direct harassment, way more likely to get deleted

"@UGAfan4TrumpMAGA lives at 123 Bulldog St., Athens, GA 12345" - Direct harassment, way more likely to get deleted

 

[Ifallalot]

Self-Described Feminist Loses Lawsuit Against Twitter For Banning Her Account

Murphy v Twitter (PDF) Murphy v Twitter (Text)

www.techdirt.com

That's not a journalist. That's a sh!t-starter/stalker with an agenda.

Furthermore, if getting kicked off Twitter is debilitating to your line of work, maybe you should, I dunno, shut the fook up after twitter warns you? To paraphrase Dave Chappelle's Black Bush "Maybe you should just shut the fook up. That's what I'd do if I didn't have a social media platform. I'd shut the fook up."

"I want to go upside the head of this dumb Georgia fan next to me" - probably not going to get auto-deleted, have account auto-suspended, etc. but if someone reports it, you might get warned.

"I want to go upside the head of @UGAfan4TrumpMAGA" - Direct harassment, way more likely to get deleted

"@UGAfan4TrumpMAGA lives at 123 Bulldog St., Athens, GA 12345" - Direct harassment, way more likely to get deleted

When are journalists not sh!t-starter/stalkers when they're actually doing their jobs?

As to the rest of it, I agree 1000%

 

[Sharkbiscuit]

When are journalists not sh!t-starter/stalkers when they're actually doing their jobs?

As to the rest of it, I agree 1000%

My opinion when considering this from the perspective of Twitter:

Investigative journalism in the form of an expose on FeministCurrent.com (or whatever) is one thing.
Using the twitter platform to directly harass another twitter user is something else.

newsarticle.com
Jurna Liszt - (LOS ANGELES) 11:08
"Ifallalot's real name is Eifel AllahAckbar Al-loot (making him a Muslim looter, topkek) and he has a history of financial support for terrorist activities in Syria and Afghanistan. Wire transfer XYZ to DoucheBank funded the attack on such and such...."

vs

@Ifallalot is a domestic terrorist who lives at XYZ; Antifa should interrogate him.
11:09 - TwatWaffle for Dildodroid

 

[Billy Ocean]

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[Ifallalot]

can we refashion this thread into a recommended list of Instagram hoes?

@breekleintop
@hildeee
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@laura_sanko

We need @keenfish for the real goods though

 

[Autoprax]

newsarticle.com
Jurna Liszt - (LOS ANGELES) 11:08
"Ifallalot's real name is Eifel AllahAckbar Al-loot (making him a Muslim looter, topkek) and he has a history of financial support for terrorist activities in Syria and Afghanistan. Wire transfer XYZ to DoucheBank funded the attack on such and such...."

Everything is making sense now.

 

[Autoprax]

can we refashion this thread into a recommended list of Instagram hoes?

When I look at the hot chicks on instagram, I feel like I am being used.

I need vagina access to feel safe.

 

[mundus]

A good thing, let all trumtards, evangelical fanatics and white supremicists have a safe space so they don't infect the rest of web.