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why do kooks travel in packs?
- Thread starter Topazslider
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Both.
The social is more important than the surf
then
strength in numbers allows them to do whatever they want.
The social is more important than the surf
then
strength in numbers allows them to do whatever they want.
Over the past two years or so, the trend at my preferred long stretch of beach break is for a group of 3-4 people to ignore the wide open spaces (where there are empty peaks) and paddle out right on top of a single surfer. Or if there are two guys sitting 20 - 30 yards apart, the group will paddle out and sit right between them.
Not every time, but quite a few of the times, there is usually a man-bun and/or a Wavestorm involved, and I've seen a few instances of guys getting out of the car already in their full suit, to meet the rest of the group and paddle out on top of someone.
I've had this happen to me quite a few times, and many of my friends who frequent this spot, have as well (as recent as a few days ago).
After having it happen to me, as well as witnessing it many times, I honestly don't think the vast majority of this behavior is being done in a malicious way - I am convinced its being done out of pure cluelessness.
Most of them don't surf that good and appear to be very inexperienced. I think the clueless mentality is 'There is a guy or two right there, so that's where we're supposed to go'.
Not every time, but quite a few of the times, there is usually a man-bun and/or a Wavestorm involved, and I've seen a few instances of guys getting out of the car already in their full suit, to meet the rest of the group and paddle out on top of someone.
I've had this happen to me quite a few times, and many of my friends who frequent this spot, have as well (as recent as a few days ago).
After having it happen to me, as well as witnessing it many times, I honestly don't think the vast majority of this behavior is being done in a malicious way - I am convinced its being done out of pure cluelessness.
Most of them don't surf that good and appear to be very inexperienced. I think the clueless mentality is 'There is a guy or two right there, so that's where we're supposed to go'.
I think it has more to do with kooks being uncomfortable surfing alone. They want to have someone save them, regardless of the actual likelihood of a kook saving another kook who's in trouble, or at least be able to call the coast guard from the beach. Plus, I think a lot of people are uncomfortable doing anything alone, so they turn every activity into a clusterfukcirclejerk.
That being said, when it comes to oversees travel, there are plenty of good surfers who travel in huge packs. Many of them happen to be "locals" from well known surf towns who complain about kooks and out of towners showing up in packs, yet they travel 4-6+ heads deep on surf trips. I'm sure there's some of that ilk reading this post right now
That being said, when it comes to oversees travel, there are plenty of good surfers who travel in huge packs. Many of them happen to be "locals" from well known surf towns who complain about kooks and out of towners showing up in packs, yet they travel 4-6+ heads deep on surf trips. I'm sure there's some of that ilk reading this post right now
Japanese do this at a few spots around my house. It used to bug the sht out of me, until I asked my friend from Japan why they do it. He said that in Japan everybody surfs together and its normal to paddle up to people and greet each other. It's not malicious and they never paddle battle me, so I don't care any more.
Unless you're a grom, in high school or college, how do you link up schedules for 3-4 of your friends to surf together? I'm on a couple group threads with like 20+ surfers and it's rare for even two of us to surf together between kids, work, traffic, conditions, swell, etc.
Unless you're a grom, in high school or college, how do you link up schedules for 3-4 of your friends to surf together? I'm on a couple group threads with like 20+ surfers and it's rare for even two of us to surf together between kids, work, traffic, conditions, swell, etc.
There is a scientific term for this. It's called being "000'd."Tanner said:Over the past two years or so, the trend at my preferred long stretch of beach break is for a group of 3-4 people to ignore the wide open spaces (where there are empty peaks) and paddle out right on top of a single surfer. Or if there are two guys sitting 20 - 30 yards apart, the group will paddle out and sit right between them.
Not every time, but quite a few of the times, there is usually a man-bun and/or a Wavestorm involved, and I've seen a few instances of guys getting out of the car already in their full suit, to meet the rest of the group and paddle out on top of someone.
I've had this happen to me quite a few times, and many of my friends who frequent this spot, have as well (as recent as a few days ago).
After having it happen to me, as well as witnessing it many times, I honestly don't think the vast majority of this behavior is being done in a malicious way - I am convinced its being done out of pure cluelessness.
Most of them don't surf that good and appear to be very inexperienced. I think the clueless mentality is 'There is a guy or two right there, so that's where we're supposed to go'.
QFTtHe rAt said:Seems to me I've seen pros travel in packs as well. With their captive photographer in tow. You want to talk about an insta-crowd?
Or another combination I have seen, two pros, one blocker on a huge board AND a photographer.
I'll take the kooks.
Exactly. You can still paddle around the kooks and get most any wave you want. Its much worse when people that are good are out.tHe rAt said:Seems to me I've seen pros travel in packs as well. With their captive photographer in tow. You want to talk about an insta-crowd?
Or another combination I have seen, two pros, one blocker on a huge board AND a photographer.
I'll take the kooks.
Remember running into a well known pro surfer chick a couple years ago down in Big Sur.
She was mint. Had this little peeon guy running around with her doing the photodocumentary.
She was a kook of 1.
The little guy was loving it. He was her bitch.
She was mint. Had this little peeon guy running around with her doing the photodocumentary.
She was a kook of 1.
The little guy was loving it. He was her bitch.
this is pretty spot on, and he's talking about where I surf so it hits home.Autoprax said:There is a scientific term for this. It's called being "000'd."Tanner said:Over the past two years or so, the trend at my preferred long stretch of beach break is for a group of 3-4 people to ignore the wide open spaces (where there are empty peaks) and paddle out right on top of a single surfer. Or if there are two guys sitting 20 - 30 yards apart, the group will paddle out and sit right between them.
Not every time, but quite a few of the times, there is usually a man-bun and/or a Wavestorm involved, and I've seen a few instances of guys getting out of the car already in their full suit, to meet the rest of the group and paddle out on top of someone.
I've had this happen to me quite a few times, and many of my friends who frequent this spot, have as well (as recent as a few days ago).
After having it happen to me, as well as witnessing it many times, I honestly don't think the vast majority of this behavior is being done in a malicious way - I am convinced its being done out of pure cluelessness.
Most of them don't surf that good and appear to be very inexperienced. I think the clueless mentality is 'There is a guy or two right there, so that's where we're supposed to go'.
What's funny is Tanner and I have checked it several times together doing the usual contemplation of where to go, or if even to go out at all, then often times we end up fr from each other.. unspoken. Never once thinking about why we didn't surf the same peak together.
Didn't someone say here that surfing is not a group hug?
I know exactly who you're referring to