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How is it separate dummy?ifallalot said:
Name your 5 best surf trips.ifallalot said:You think you know so much about me when you don'tFecalFace said:
You should probably stop projecting your prejudices, ignorance, and fantasies on others in order to make a point. Its not a good look.
In addition to that, personal experience is not the be all and end all of learning. Prejudiced perceptions like your own cloud any judgement you can make.
The fact that large-scale immigration from shitholes to the 1st World continues to exist and the fact that you live here now proves my whole point. Even on a smaller level, look how many people from the Midwest move to the coasts in the US. People in shitholes know they live in shitholes and look for any opportunity to escape.
Maybe if you can finally realize that calling a place a shithole doesn't mean that you're calling the person or culture a shithole it wouldn't cause you to have such a conniption fit. But who am I kidding on that?
Just the board bag fees alone travelling with boards for 4 surfers. In my recent trip I had two big bags stuffed with boards. I had one board bag damaged on the flight out and one bag damaged on the flight home. No major damage thank goodness but basically ever single board needed repairs.OTdos said:GromDad:
"Supporting a family of five is expensive. Traveling to surf with a family of five is pretty freaking expensive. It is what it is."
That was the point I was trying make in my last post above. I opted out of that. Choices & priorities. One is not inherently better than the other by any means.
Like Billy, I do not travel abroad anymore. That type of thing drys up quick after you stop working.
I stay local too, just like Billy. Fortunately I live on a giant peninsula that's like a desert park in most all of it. Only takes gas for my truck.
BUT ..... the place is in a one of those "shitholes"
Wah.GromsDad said:Just the board bag fees alone travelling with boards for 4 surfers. In my recent trip I had two big bags stuffed with boards. I had one board bag damaged on the flight out and one bag damaged on the flight home. No major damage thank goodness but basically ever single board needed repairs.OTdos said:GromDad:
"Supporting a family of five is expensive. Traveling to surf with a family of five is pretty freaking expensive. It is what it is."
That was the point I was trying make in my last post above. I opted out of that. Choices & priorities. One is not inherently better than the other by any means.
Like Billy, I do not travel abroad anymore. That type of thing drys up quick after you stop working.
I stay local too, just like Billy. Fortunately I live on a giant peninsula that's like a desert park in most all of it. Only takes gas for my truck.
BUT ..... the place is in a one of those "shitholes"
You have no room to talk about prejudice.ifallalot said:You think you know so much about me when you don'tFecalFace said:
You should probably stop projecting your prejudices, ignorance, and fantasies on others in order to make a point. Its not a good look.
In addition to that, personal experience is not the be all and end all of learning. Prejudiced perceptions like your own cloud any judgement you can make.
The fact that large-scale immigration from shitholes to the 1st World continues to exist and the fact that you live here now proves my whole point. Even on a smaller level, look how many people from the Midwest move to the coasts in the US. People in shitholes know they live in shitholes and look for any opportunity to escape.
Maybe if you can finally realize that calling a place a shithole doesn't mean that you're calling the person or culture a shithole it wouldn't cause you to have such a conniption fit. But who am I kidding on that?
I guess that's a good reason not to go anywhere.GromsDad said:Just the board bag fees alone travelling with boards for 4 surfers. In my recent trip I had two big bags stuffed with boards. I had one board bag damaged on the flight out and one bag damaged on the flight home. No major damage thank goodness but basically ever single board needed repairs.OTdos said:GromDad:
"Supporting a family of five is expensive. Traveling to surf with a family of five is pretty freaking expensive. It is what it is."
That was the point I was trying make in my last post above. I opted out of that. Choices & priorities. One is not inherently better than the other by any means.
Like Billy, I do not travel abroad anymore. That type of thing drys up quick after you stop working.
I stay local too, just like Billy. Fortunately I live on a giant peninsula that's like a desert park in most all of it. Only takes gas for my truck.
BUT ..... the place is in a one of those "shitholes"
I'm not saying change doesn't need to take place.FecalFace said:
I have a friend who does like you say. He's been pretty much everywhere. He comes home and works his ass off then travels again. Probably does 5 trips a year to far flung places. The key for him is he's self employed and has no children. For me the past decade my surf trips have been more about the kids than me. They all surf well and one of them rips. We just got back from a west coast trip and I'm already getting pressure from my young charger to take him to Hawaii next year. He may get Costa Rica instead.1whoknows said:
Central A/CElOgro said:I see a breathe holding contest in the making here.
Define a good surf trip. What kind of wave count/$$ would make a good surf trip for you? Guided trip? Accommodations?
You guys are too gnarly for me.
My kids don't surf. Or enjoy the snow that much. They're brainiac nerds. They prefer museums and libraries. And gourmet restaurants. Not that I didn't try to get them into outdoor sports. They're just not into it. Neither is my wife. So, easy for me to go on trips solo or with a friend or two. You get what you get.... and it's all good.GromsDad said:
at this point? I make it to the beach, pull on a wetsuit and surfElOgro said:I see a breathe holding contest in the making here.
Define a good surf trip. What kind of wave count/$$ would make a good surf trip for you? Guided trip? Accommodations?
You guys are too gnarly for me.
