Trump to advance construction of 2 big oil pipelines

[Mike_Jones]

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Trump to advance construction of 2 big oil pipelines

If you had issues with Donald Trump, but you figured he might be worth rolling the dice if there was the hope of four or five things good things happening, what might have been on your list? The Supreme Court, certainly. The ObamaCare repeal, absolutely. For me, one of the issues close to the top as well was energy independence. And that doesn't only include drilling for domestic resources. Most people don't realize what a big problem transport infrastructure is, and the Keystone XL and Dakota Access pipelines were supposed to serve as major steps in the right direction until they got stopped by a left-wing president who just flat-out hates everything about fossil fuels.

Keystone XL was an especially maddening example during the Obama presidency because everyone knew the seven-year "review process" was a total sham, and no one was surprised when Obama denied the construction permit after sitting on his hands for seven years pretending to think about it. Denying Keystone was a betrayal not only to the company, but to our Canadian allies as well. They wanted to transport oil via our territory and give us a piece of the distribution and refinery action. It benefited no one to deny it, but Obama did it anyway because he was ideologically predisposed to do so, and that's all there was to it.

Well. Four days into the Trump presidency, things have changed quickly and dramatically:

President Trump will sign orders Tuesday to advance construction of the controversial Keystone XL and Dakota Access pipelines, The Hill has confirmed.

The orders will not grant the final permits needed for the oil pipelines, but will move both projects toward approval, a person familiar with the action said.

The Trump administration began to inform lawmakers starting late Monday that the orders were coming.

The orders will fulfill Trump's campaign promises to approve both pipelines, which have staunch support from the oil industry and the GOP but are strongly opposed by Democrats and environmentalists.

The White House said Trump plans to sign executive orders at 11 a.m. Tuesday morning, but did not provide more details.

So just to be clear, this is not the granting of the permit. Rather, it's the start of the process that undoes Obama's denial - and will ultimately lead to the permit being granted.

And by the way, this is a good example of how the left has screwed itself with its approach to Trump, both during the campaign and since the election. They're going to hate this decision. They're going to be enraged. They're going to call Trump a corporate stooge and a polluter and a robber baron and Hitler.....

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[studog]

we get all the pollution and none of the oil for consumption. great deal for America!

 

[StuAzole]

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Trump to advance construction of 2 big oil pipelines

If you had issues with Donald Trump, but you figured he might be worth rolling the dice if there was the hope of four or five things good things happening, what might have been on your list? The Supreme Court, certainly. The ObamaCare repeal, absolutely. For me, one of the issues close to the top as well was energy independence. And that doesn't only include drilling for domestic resources. Most people don't realize what a big problem transport infrastructure is, and the Keystone XL and Dakota Access pipelines were supposed to serve as major steps in the right direction until they got stopped by a left-wing president who just flat-out hates everything about fossil fuels.

Keystone XL was an especially maddening example during the Obama presidency because everyone knew the seven-year "review process" was a total sham, and no one was surprised when Obama denied the construction permit after sitting on his hands for seven years pretending to think about it. Denying Keystone was a betrayal not only to the company, but to our Canadian allies as well. They wanted to transport oil via our territory and give us a piece of the distribution and refinery action. It benefited no one to deny it, but Obama did it anyway because he was ideologically predisposed to do so, and that's all there was to it.

Well. Four days into the Trump presidency, things have changed quickly and dramatically:

President Trump will sign orders Tuesday to advance construction of the controversial Keystone XL and Dakota Access pipelines, The Hill has confirmed.

The orders will not grant the final permits needed for the oil pipelines, but will move both projects toward approval, a person familiar with the action said.

The Trump administration began to inform lawmakers starting late Monday that the orders were coming.

The orders will fulfill Trump's campaign promises to approve both pipelines, which have staunch support from the oil industry and the GOP but are strongly opposed by Democrats and environmentalists.

The White House said Trump plans to sign executive orders at 11 a.m. Tuesday morning, but did not provide more details.

So just to be clear, this is not the granting of the permit. Rather, it's the start of the process that undoes Obama's denial - and will ultimately lead to the permit being granted.

And by the way, this is a good example of how the left has screwed itself with its approach to Trump, both during the campaign and since the election. They're going to hate this decision. They're going to be enraged. They're going to call Trump a corporate stooge and a polluter and a robber baron and Hitler.....

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Are you going to post a link to every action Trump takes for the next 4 years?

 

[$kully]

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[manbearpig]

As far as I can tell all he did was reopen negotiations. He talks about added jobs but he doesn't talk about the fact that those jobs created come at the price of destroying a nations home that we have already historically suppressed, in the case of the DAPL. We as a nation have to stick to some moral good and this is past that. Those jobs are not worth more than their home.

 

[GromsDad]

Its a pipeline. Its not the end of the world or anyone's home.

 

[$kully]

Its a pipeline. Its not the end of the world or anyone's home.

Why don't you invite them to run it through your backyard and your water supply?

 

[manbearpig]

Its a pipeline. Its not the end of the world or anyone's home.

Easy to say when it's not your home, your land or your water.

 

[GromsDad]

It's worked out just fine in Alaska. You'll be just fine snowflake.

 

[Autoprax]

Distraction.

Deflect from attention from his cleaning out of the cupboards

I think I got trumps patterns now.

 

[Mike_Jones]

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Native Americans after 'easy money' in pipeline fight

Proponents of the $3.8 billion Dakota Access pipeline say the Native American tribe protesting the project isn't all that hung up on whether the pipeline will use sacred land, and is really just looking for a bigger cut of the revenue.

The Standing Rock Sioux tribe has claimed that the project has encroached on its land, damaged sacred sites and would potentially harm a major source of their drinking water by going under Lake Oahe.

Sources privy to the discussions say a number of offers had been made to the tribe, including the installation of water quality sensors, construction of a fresh water storage facility to store water in case of a pipeline leak, and other means of ensuring water quality. The developers also offered to create a rapid response team to respond to environmental accidents, including emergency vehicles provided to Standing Rock Tribal members, according to an email from one source involved in the discussions.

But what continued to throw a wall up in the discussions was the tribe's demand to receive a fee for shipping the oil.

"Even though the pipeline never crosses the Standing Rock Sioux reservation, Energy Transfer Partners has attempted to be a good neighbor by offering water testing and monitoring, as well as significant community support to the tribe," the source said. "But time and again the tribe rebuffed or ignored the company's offers demanding, instead, a toll on the crude that passed through the pipeline, an ultimatum that showed the tribe's true desire — easy money."

The company wouldn't agree to the condition, but offered to pay for infrastructure improvements on the reservation prioritized by the tribe. The company even purchased a 7,600-acre property called the Cannonball Ranch that is adjacent to the reservation, offering it to the tribe as part of a settlement proposal, say sources privy to the talks.

The talks occurred in the run-up to the heightened protests and amid the two lawsuits that were brought by the tribe in an effort to reroute or block continued construction of the 1,200-mile project.

A spokesman for the tribe did not respond to a request for comment.

Energy Transfer Partners CEO Kelcy Warren said Friday that they would not be rerouted. "There's not another way," he said. "We're building at that location."

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[manbearpig]

It's worked out just fine in Alaska. You'll be just fine snowflake.

You truly are an arrogant cun.t aren't ya snowflake?

 

[Gnudz]

There's some quick bucks to be made in the short term so fuck the environment.

The Trump administration also ordered a stop to all EPA business and banned anyone at the agency from talking about it.

There's money to be made, but only for the already obscenely rich.

Drain the swamp indeed.

 

[Kento]

There's some quick bucks to be made in the short term so fuck the environment.

The Trump administration also ordered a stop to all EPA business and banned anyone at the agency from talking about it.

There's money to be made, but only for the already obscenely rich.

Drain the swamp indeed.

I have a bunch of PCE and TCE impacted soil and groundwater to get rid of. Would cost several grand normally. Hmm... without EPA regs, what's stopping me from dumping it on a Trump supporter's lawn in the middle of the night?

I am liking this.

 

[Mike_Jones]

There's some quick bucks to be made in the short term so fuck the environment.

The Trump administration also ordered a stop to all EPA business and banned anyone at the agency from talking about it.

There's money to be made, but only for the already obscenely rich.

Drain the swamp indeed.

"Oh yeah, squidley. Then why did Obama withdraw support from the two pipelines?"

Warren Buffett and the Keystone Decision

When President Obama announced he was killing the Keystone XL pipeline, he said he was agreeing with the State Department's assessment that the pipeline from Canada "would not serve the national interests of the United States." The fact is that it would not have benefitted the personal financial interests of friend and economic mentor, Warren Buffett, who can rest assured that oil from Canada and the nearby Bakken formation in North Dakota will continue to be transported by a railroad he owns. As Investor's Business Daily noted in a 2011 editorial:

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Killing the Keystone XL pipeline may help one of the world's richest men get richer. North Dakota's booming oil fields will now grow more dependent on a railroad the president's economic guru just bought….

As oil production ramps up in the Bakken fields of North Dakota, plans to use the pipeline to transport it have been dashed.

As a result, North Dakota's booming oil producers will have to rely even more on the Burlington Northern Santa Fe (BNSF) railroad, which Buffett just bought, to ship it to refineries.
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Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway has agreed to buy Burlington Northern Santa Fe in a deal valuing the railroad at $34 billion. Berkshire Hathaway already owns about 22% of Burlington Northern, and will pay $100 a share in cash and stock for the rest of the company.
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President Obama would soon launch an endless review process that would kick the Keystone oil can down the road until he was ready to kill it, a non-suspicious interval of time having elapsed after economic mentor Warren Buffet would buy the railroad that would replace Keystone XL. So how did Buffett do on his investment and did he profit from buddy Obama's delaying and then killing the pipeline? Some would say handsomely. As Forbes reported last year:

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His company, Berkshire Hathaway, purchased Burlington Northern Santa Fe for $34 billion four years ago. FORBES estimates its value has doubled since then. Part of the reason: hauling oil out of the Bakken formation of North Dakota.
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Doubling a $34 billion investment in just four years is huge. Warren Buffett is a respected investor but it doesn't hurt to have the ear of the President as he kills off your competition in oil transport. As Investor's Business Daily editorialized in January:

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Keystone XL would bring up to 830,000 barrels of oil per day and directly create 20,000 truly shovel-ready jobs. And it would carry not only Canadian oil, but also oil from the Bakken shale formation of North Dakota......
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.....but it would bypass Warren Buffet's monopoly.
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[Lance Mannion]

There's some quick bucks to be made in the short term so fuck the environment.

The Trump administration also ordered a stop to all EPA business and banned anyone at the agency from talking about it.

There's money to be made, but only for the already obscenely rich.

Drain the swamp indeed.

I have a bunch of PCE and TCE impacted soil and groundwater to get rid of. Would cost several grand normally. Hmm... without EPA regs, what's stopping me from dumping it on a Trump supporter's lawn in the middle of the night?

I am liking this.

Trump supporters own guns, not lawyers.

 

[Kento]

There's some quick bucks to be made in the short term so fuck the environment.

The Trump administration also ordered a stop to all EPA business and banned anyone at the agency from talking about it.

There's money to be made, but only for the already obscenely rich.

Drain the swamp indeed.

I have a bunch of PCE and TCE impacted soil and groundwater to get rid of. Would cost several grand normally. Hmm... without EPA regs, what's stopping me from dumping it on a Trump supporter's lawn in the middle of the night?

I am liking this.

Trump supporters own guns, not lawyers.

We'll just say the drums are full of liberal tears. They might order more.

 

[FecalFace]

So let me get this straight: the "America First" President just gave a green light to a Canadian company to build a pipeline across American soil that transports Canadian oil to sell to China?

 

[Ifallalot]

So let me get this straight: the "America First" President just gave a green light to a Canadian company to build a pipeline across American soil that transports Canadian oil to sell to China?

Yeah, this whole thing is sickening.

 

[Sharkbiscuit]

Red States. When their rivers look like the rivers in Saskatchewan or Kalamazoo, I hope to price gouge them.