Today it's the Confederate monuments, tomorrow...

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GromsDad said:
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are y'all cool with this ?? ( :

http://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/2017/10/18/jps-school-renames-jefferson-davis-barack-obama/774892001/
 

Billy Ocean

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test_article said:
BillyOcean said:
I also sympathize with blacks who have a problem with the statues

I think that is enough of a reason to take them down

Sanctimonious white northerners can get f'd though

The north is at least if not more racist than the south

Also

I should add

That for many, many southerners, these monuments are not racist

for example

My great great grandfather fought in the war

I knew my great grandfather as a child

I am only in my late 30s, so it is not that far removed

By the way, this is also why I sympathize with blacks about slavery

It is really not that long ago

Anyway, my great great grandfather was killed in the war

And the northerners destroyed their farm

So the confederate monuments are really about that for the people who have a connection to this stuff
Could you flesh out your use of the word 'that' in your last sentence? I'm trying to understand why any U.S. of American would care about those statues beyond their Ripley's Believe It or Not value.
They care because the North totally f'd up the south

They didn't just do the minimum to correct the great evil of slavery

They completely terrorized the south

Destroying everything

Stealing, raping, burning to the ground

People don't forget that stuff super easy

My great grandfather wouldn't attend his son's wedding because the chick was from CT
 

Ifallalot

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BillyOcean said:
test_article said:
BillyOcean said:
I also sympathize with blacks who have a problem with the statues

I think that is enough of a reason to take them down

Sanctimonious white northerners can get f'd though

The north is at least if not more racist than the south

Also

I should add

That for many, many southerners, these monuments are not racist

for example

My great great grandfather fought in the war

I knew my great grandfather as a child

I am only in my late 30s, so it is not that far removed

By the way, this is also why I sympathize with blacks about slavery

It is really not that long ago

Anyway, my great great grandfather was killed in the war

And the northerners destroyed their farm

So the confederate monuments are really about that for the people who have a connection to this stuff
Could you flesh out your use of the word 'that' in your last sentence? I'm trying to understand why any U.S. of American would care about those statues beyond their Ripley's Believe It or Not value.
They care because the North totally f'd up the south

They didn't just do the minimum to correct the great evil of slavery

They completely terrorized the south

Destroying everything

Stealing, raping, burning to the ground

People don't forget that stuff super easy

My great grandfather wouldn't attend his son's wedding because the chick was from CT
It was calculated. Before Lincoln and Grant turned Sherman loose the war was at a stalemate and before Gettysburg the South was winning.

The only way to truly win a modern, industrialized war (The Civil War was the first) is scorched earth
 

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Southern hospitality is a trip. It's an actually thing that you notice right away.

I was really struck by it the first time.

Same with Aloha in Hawaii.

 

StuAzole

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BillyOcean said:
test_article said:
BillyOcean said:
I also sympathize with blacks who have a problem with the statues

I think that is enough of a reason to take them down

Sanctimonious white northerners can get f'd though

The north is at least if not more racist than the south

Also

I should add

That for many, many southerners, these monuments are not racist

for example

My great great grandfather fought in the war

I knew my great grandfather as a child

I am only in my late 30s, so it is not that far removed

By the way, this is also why I sympathize with blacks about slavery

It is really not that long ago

Anyway, my great great grandfather was killed in the war

And the northerners destroyed their farm

So the confederate monuments are really about that for the people who have a connection to this stuff
Could you flesh out your use of the word 'that' in your last sentence? I'm trying to understand why any U.S. of American would care about those statues beyond their Ripley's Believe It or Not value.
They care because the North totally f'd up the south

They didn't just do the minimum to correct the great evil of slavery

They completely terrorized the south

Destroying everything

Stealing, raping, burning to the ground

People don't forget that stuff super easy

My great grandfather wouldn't attend his son's wedding because the chick was from CT
That's an interesting point. Now imagine if you were a slave and you and 6 generations of your family previously were raped, beaten and treated as less than human by your owners. Yet many in America seem to want blacks to just forget that and get on with life. Funny that.
 

sizzld1

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StuAzole said:
BillyOcean said:
test_article said:
BillyOcean said:
I also sympathize with blacks who have a problem with the statues

I think that is enough of a reason to take them down

Sanctimonious white northerners can get f'd though

The north is at least if not more racist than the south

Also

I should add

That for many, many southerners, these monuments are not racist

for example

My great great grandfather fought in the war

I knew my great grandfather as a child

I am only in my late 30s, so it is not that far removed

By the way, this is also why I sympathize with blacks about slavery

It is really not that long ago

Anyway, my great great grandfather was killed in the war

And the northerners destroyed their farm

So the confederate monuments are really about that for the people who have a connection to this stuff
Could you flesh out your use of the word 'that' in your last sentence? I'm trying to understand why any U.S. of American would care about those statues beyond their Ripley's Believe It or Not value.
They care because the North totally f'd up the south

They didn't just do the minimum to correct the great evil of slavery

They completely terrorized the south

Destroying everything

Stealing, raping, burning to the ground

People don't forget that stuff super easy

My great grandfather wouldn't attend his son's wedding because the chick was from CT
That's an interesting point. Now imagine if you were a slave and you and 6 generations of your family previously were raped, beaten and treated as less than human by your owners. Yet many in America seem to want blacks to just forget that and get on with life. Funny that.
Not only that, but people like SurfDog expect that they should respect statues that portray, for instance, the man who lead the fight to keep slavery alive (among other things), while walking into a courthouse or a state capital building because it's "art". :socrazy:
 

Billy Ocean

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StuAzole said:
BillyOcean said:
test_article said:
BillyOcean said:
I also sympathize with blacks who have a problem with the statues

I think that is enough of a reason to take them down

Sanctimonious white northerners can get f'd though

The north is at least if not more racist than the south

Also

I should add

That for many, many southerners, these monuments are not racist

for example

My great great grandfather fought in the war

I knew my great grandfather as a child

I am only in my late 30s, so it is not that far removed

By the way, this is also why I sympathize with blacks about slavery

It is really not that long ago

Anyway, my great great grandfather was killed in the war

And the northerners destroyed their farm

So the confederate monuments are really about that for the people who have a connection to this stuff
Could you flesh out your use of the word 'that' in your last sentence? I'm trying to understand why any U.S. of American would care about those statues beyond their Ripley's Believe It or Not value.
They care because the North totally f'd up the south

They didn't just do the minimum to correct the great evil of slavery

They completely terrorized the south

Destroying everything

Stealing, raping, burning to the ground

People don't forget that stuff super easy

My great grandfather wouldn't attend his son's wedding because the chick was from CT
That's an interesting point. Now imagine if you were a slave and you and 6 generations of your family previously were raped, beaten and treated as less than human by your owners. Yet many in America seem to want blacks to just forget that and get on with life. Funny that.
I agree

If I was black, I’d probably be a little annoyed by white people

It’s complicated

People are multi dimensional

I actually think blacks and whites get along better in the south

They’re more used to being around one another

The north seems much more segregated to me
 

Billy Ocean

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ifallalot said:
BillyOcean said:
test_article said:
BillyOcean said:
I also sympathize with blacks who have a problem with the statues

I think that is enough of a reason to take them down

Sanctimonious white northerners can get f'd though

The north is at least if not more racist than the south

Also

I should add

That for many, many southerners, these monuments are not racist

for example

My great great grandfather fought in the war

I knew my great grandfather as a child

I am only in my late 30s, so it is not that far removed

By the way, this is also why I sympathize with blacks about slavery

It is really not that long ago

Anyway, my great great grandfather was killed in the war

And the northerners destroyed their farm

So the confederate monuments are really about that for the people who have a connection to this stuff
Could you flesh out your use of the word 'that' in your last sentence? I'm trying to understand why any U.S. of American would care about those statues beyond their Ripley's Believe It or Not value.
They care because the North totally f'd up the south

They didn't just do the minimum to correct the great evil of slavery

They completely terrorized the south

Destroying everything

Stealing, raping, burning to the ground

People don't forget that stuff super easy

My great grandfather wouldn't attend his son's wedding because the chick was from CT
It was calculated. Before Lincoln and Grant turned Sherman loose the war was at a stalemate and before Gettysburg the South was winning.

The only way to truly win a modern, industrialized war (The Civil War was the first) is scorched earth
Yeah it makes sense strategically

I get it

I don’t think anyone today really holds a grudge

But you can imagine how many people did when the confederate statues were erected