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FecalFace said:Uh no, their loyalty is to the citizens that they serve. Since bureaucrats are unelected, that means they fall under the purview of their bosses that are actually elected.ifallalot said:Uh no. Their loyalty is to the truth.FecalFace said:Wrong
Checks and balances operate between the different branches (exec, congress and courts)
Fed agencies are part of the exec branch
The president is the head of the exec branch
Agency employees have no authority to disobey the president
Their only option if they don’t like his policies is to resign
This is fundamental sh!t
Regurgitating POTUS lies is not in the civics rules.
The government, both elected and unelected agencies, are our servants. Don't forget that
And yet, still, no charges of any significance leading back to the Trump campaign colluding with Russians.afoaf said:and all those crooks were working for/with Russians..."There were crooks working in the Trump campaign - par for the course - and the Trump campaign had contact with Russians. Russians created a troll army in hopes of spreading propaganda."
No evidence has shown the Trump campaign being connected to any of this.and the Russians hacked the DCCC and then the DNC, took data, and used Wikileaks to
mask their identity upon release.
and the Russians directed spearphishing attacks on state election officials that ran VR Systems
because they were capable of compromising that system.
If you investigate people in a political campaign you're going to find financial crooks and connections to foreign governments.Billy's assertion is baseless and without merit while the investigation he is trying to malign
has yielded a number of indictments and convictions (with more pending).
I asked before, what exactly is the Russia narrative?so when you say something like this:
I think you're being a bit ridiculous if not willingly obtuse."there is a mounting pile of publicly known details that supports the Russia narrative" is a bit ridiculous.
Is Mueller a clerk?BillyOcean said:The constitution sez impeach or GTFO
BTW only congress can impeach
That’s your check/balance
Not clerks
Ab-so-fucking-loutleyFecalFace said:Is Mueller a clerk?BillyOcean said:The constitution sez impeach or GTFO
BTW only congress can impeach
That’s your check/balance
Not clerks
ifallalot said:Ab-so-fucking-loutleyFecalFace said:Is Mueller a clerk?BillyOcean said:The constitution sez impeach or GTFO
BTW only congress can impeach
That’s your check/balance
Not clerks
Go ahead and answer.afoaf said:playing coy is just not your strong suit.casa_mugrienta said:And yet, still, no charges of any significance leading back to the Trump campaign colluding with Russians.afoaf said:and all those crooks were working for/with Russians..."There were crooks working in the Trump campaign - par for the course - and the Trump campaign had contact with Russians. Russians created a troll army in hopes of spreading propaganda."
I'm sure, like any political campaign, they working "for/with" anyone others as well. That's how political campaigns are.
Manafort, the seemingly big fish here - who has worked for countries in Africa and Saudi Arabia - was working for pro-Russia parties in the Ukraine. Still, no connection to Russian interference as this time.
In fact, as far as anyone in connection with the Trump campaign, no one has been indicted on anything showing collusion.
No evidence has shown the Trump campaign being connected to any of this.and the Russians hacked the DCCC and then the DNC, took data, and used Wikileaks to
mask their identity upon release.
and the Russians directed spearphishing attacks on state election officials that ran VR Systems
because they were capable of compromising that system.
If you investigate people in a political campaign you're going to find financial crooks and connections to foreign governments.Billy's assertion is baseless and without merit while the investigation he is trying to malign
has yielded a number of indictments and convictions (with more pending).
Acting shocked about this is retard.
Has there been any charge of any real significance connecting the Trump campaign to colluding with Russia to steal the election?
No.
I asked before, what exactly is the Russia narrative?so when you say something like this:
I think you're being a bit ridiculous if not willingly obtuse."there is a mounting pile of publicly known details that supports the Russia narrative" is a bit ridiculous.
Really, I don't know what you're meaning by the Russia narrative.
It seems the definition keeps changing.
'foaf would rather read Wonkette.Surfdog said:Since most ignored this Hill piece (as many on the left like to post stories from) on the Cohen thread, which was out of context for it, here it is again in a more relevant OP.....
"This month, they finally got the chance to ask. Strzok declined to say — but Page, during a closed-door interview with lawmakers, confirmed in the most pained and contorted way that the message in fact referred to the quality of the Russia case, according to multiple eyewitnesses."
"The admission is deeply consequential. It means Rosenstein unleashed the most awesome powers of a special counsel to investigate an allegation that the key FBI officials, driving the investigation for 10 months beforehand, did not think was “there.” "
>> one-fbi-text-message-in-russia-probe-should-alarm-every-american <<
There's plenty of incriminating texts by both Strzok and Page in this story. Hard to ignore.
Yes, totallyFecalFace said:Is Mueller a clerk?BillyOcean said:The constitution sez impeach or GTFO
BTW only congress can impeach
That’s your check/balance
Not clerks
GitmoSurfdog said:Since most ignored this Hill piece (as many on the left like to post stories from) on the Cohen thread, which was out of context for it, here it is again in a more relevant OP.....
"This month, they finally got the chance to ask. Strzok declined to say — but Page, during a closed-door interview with lawmakers, confirmed in the most pained and contorted way that the message in fact referred to the quality of the Russia case, according to multiple eyewitnesses."
"The admission is deeply consequential. It means Rosenstein unleashed the most awesome powers of a special counsel to investigate an allegation that the key FBI officials, driving the investigation for 10 months beforehand, did not think was “there.” "
>> one-fbi-text-message-in-russia-probe-should-alarm-every-american <<
There's plenty of incriminating texts by both Strzok and Page in this story. Hard to ignore.
He’s not Congress, geniusFecalFace said:ifallalot said:Ab-so-fucking-loutleyFecalFace said:Is Mueller a clerk?BillyOcean said:The constitution sez impeach or GTFO
BTW only congress can impeach
That’s your check/balance
Not clerks
Ahaha, you hate GUBMINT CORUPSHN but you want everybody to walk in lock step with criminals.
So much for the Constitution and checks and balances.
Clowns.
Practically speaking we need the clerkshammies said:I like how certain people rail against unelected "clerks". What do they want?
A 5000 page ballot with every civil servant in America on it every 4 years?
Or do they just want everybody at all levels of the government to profess 100% fealty to the President?
Or do they just want the rest of government at all levels to step aside and let the President do whatever the hell he wants?
Or do they just want to get rid of large swaths of government completely, especially law enforcement and intelligence agencies such as the DOJ, CIA, FBI, and NSA?
To devolve their power and lessen their ability to impact our lives.I like how certain people rail against unelected "clerks". What do they want?
Trump's support really has become cult-like.manbearpig said:Jeez many of you seem to think trump is some kind of savior. Full on religious fanatic level.