Tennessee governor wore confederate uniform in yearbook photo....

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https://www.wkrn.com/news/politics/gov-bill-lee-i-ve-come-to-regret-wearing-confederate-uniform-in-college-photos/1799483972


I'm guessing the erBB-GOP will call for his ouster.

NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP/WKRN) - Tennessee Gov. Bill Lee was 17 when he joined the Kappa Alpha fraternity at Auburn University, which every spring held an “Old South” party where he and other members dressed in Confederate uniforms.

The fraternity has since ended the tradition, and Lee, four decades removed from his undergraduate days at the Alabama university, says he regrets attending and wearing the uniform, and has come to see his participation in the event differently.

A spokeswoman for Lee confirmed on Thursday that Auburn’s 1980 yearbook includes a photo of the governor and another man in Confederate uniforms.

“While I never intentionally acted in an insensitive way, with 40 years of hindsight, I have come to realize that was insensitive and have come to regret that,” the Republican governor said.

The scandal involving two Virginia politicians who once wore blackface has brought renewed scrutiny to the past behavior of elected officials around the country when it comes to race. Lee’s comments came during interviews The Associated Press conducted with governors across the country following the scandal in Virginia. Comments from Lee were first reported Wednesday by The Tennessean.

Lee, who was sworn in as governor in January, spoke to the AP briefly about how he has come to view his actions. He later said through a spokeswoman that he has never worn blackface or attended parties where others were doing so, nor has he taken part in other activities or organizations since college that would be considered racially insensitive or offensive.

In the 1980 Lee yearbook photo, Lee is wearing a Confederate soldier uniform and is standing with a woman in an antebellum dress. Lee’s office said it did not immediately know the identity of the woman.

Another unidentified woman and man are also in the photo wearing the same kind of outfits.

Two other photos with different people in Confederate clothing are on the page, which has the caption, “The South shall rise again, right Bill! When the band plays ‘Dixie’, a tear comes to our eyes. I’d do anything Lee, but she comes first.”

The page also explains that Kappa Alpha was based on ideas that “constituted the frame and fabric of Southern Culture” and that its founding fathers saw in Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee “chivalry, valor, loyalty and reverence for womankind.”

Auburn’s yearbook from 1978, Lee’s freshman year, called the party sponsored by Lee’s Kappa Alpha fraternity “one of the biggest social events on campus.”

It described the festivities this way: “Preliminary parties last for a week and finally culminate on Saturday night. The sound of rebel yells and horses’ hooves can be heard as the KA’s parade down College Street - reminiscent of one of the South’s hardest, yet grandest times.”

The yearbook noted that Kappa Alpha also sponsored an event called Convivium, a celebration of Robert E. Lee’s birthday. The yearbook said he was “exemplary of the Southern gentleman” and represented attributes “that KA strives to uphold — to mold leaders, not simply followers.”

Old South parties were a Kappa Alpha tradition on other campuses, including at the University of Georgia in 1983, when Georgia’s current governor, Republican Brian Kemp, was a student. Kemp was a member of a different fraternity, and there is nothing in his yearbooks to suggest he attended the parties.

Kemp did not respond to the AP survey.

Alabama Gov. Kay Ivey attended Auburn a decade earlier than Lee. Her sorority’s 1967 yearbook photo shows five members with black masks portraying “minstrels” in a rush skit, but Ivey said she is not in the photograph. Its caption reads, “Alpha Gam Minstrels welcome rushees aboard their showboat.”

The photo is on the same page as a description of the sorority and the accomplishments of its members. The page notes that Ivey was vice president of the student body.

Ivey, a Republican, said she did not recall the skit.

“When I was shown that picture, it had to be a rush skit or something at the sorority at some point in time, but no, I didn’t remember it,” she said. “I certainly wasn’t a part of it.”

Ivey said “there is no place” for blackface and that she had never worn it. When asked if she had ever made a remark perceived as racially insensitive, she replied that she hoped not.

In a statement released to News 2 on Thursday, Lee said:
 

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Nobody gave a sh!t about the Virginia governor. It was only newsworthy in light of how despicable democrats had acted during the Kav hearings. How are you guys making out with ousting Democrat Governor Blackface. Get back to us once you pull that off.
 

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GromsDad said:
Nobody gave a sh!t about the Virginia governor. It was only newsworthy in light of how despicable democrats had acted during the Kav hearings. How are you guys making out with ousting Democrat Governor Blackface. Get back to us once you pull that off.
I don’t think anyone here lives in Virginia
 

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1980

I was born in 1980, I will be 39 years old this year.

Way to stay current
 

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Also, please tell me what's wrong with a Confederate uniform.

My cousin has done some heavy duty genealogy work, and I found out I'm eligible to join the SCV, does that make me a RASSSSSSSSS?
 

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ifallalot said:
Also, please tell me what's wrong with a Confederate uniform.

My cousin has done some heavy duty genealogy work, and I found out I'm eligible to join the SCV, does that make me a RASSSSSSSSS?
History guy asks what’s the issue with a confederate uniform and then brags about joining the SCV victims group :roflmao: :roflmao:
 

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manbearpig said:
ifallalot said:
Also, please tell me what's wrong with a Confederate uniform.

My cousin has done some heavy duty genealogy work, and I found out I'm eligible to join the SCV, does that make me a RASSSSSSSSS?
History guy asks what’s the issue with a confederate uniform and then brags about joining the SCV victims group :roflmao: :roflmao:
As a fellow history guy you shouldn't have a problem with a Confederate uniform either.

I'll give you the SCV as a victim group though.
 

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This story cracked me up:

USA Today Searched Old Yearbooks for Blackface Photos. It Found One Published by Its Editor.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/21/us/nicole-carroll-usa-today-blackface.html

These retarded gotcha campaigns need to end. Times change. Perceptions change. And, most of all, people change. As long as they realize those actions (blackface in particular and yes, donning a Confederate uniform in overtly racist circumstances) aren't acceptable today and are apologetic, I don't see any real reason for all the uproar, calling for them to be fired, etc. Before anyone gets their panties in a bunch, obviously you have to look to the circumstances of each particular case before coming to a decision on its seriousness.
 

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we should probably start looking into what types of music politicians listened to back in the 70s, 80s and 90s as well
There are certain bands that may require oiling of the guillotine. :beer:
 

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ifallalot said:
Also, please tell me what's wrong with a Confederate uniform.

My cousin has done some heavy duty genealogy work, and I found out I'm eligible to join the SCV, does that make me a RASSSSSSSSS?
Um, it was the uniform of treason against the USA and don't bother giving me the "lost cause" BS, the war was about slavery.
 

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mundus said:
ifallalot said:
Also, please tell me what's wrong with a Confederate uniform.

My cousin has done some heavy duty genealogy work, and I found out I'm eligible to join the SCV, does that make me a RASSSSSSSSS?
Um, it was the uniform of treason against the USA and don't bother giving me the "lost cause" BS, the war was about slavery.
Derp. The CSA had a draft

Yes the war was about slavery, but that was the polticians’ war
 

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Still the uniform of treason, Nazi Germany had a draft too, does that absolve their soldiers as well?
 

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mundus said:
Still the uniform of treason, Nazi Germany had a draft too, does that absolve their soldiers as well?
Yes. It absolutely does

Based on their personal actions, of course.

Vietnam was a historic boondoggle that served no good purpose except nearly-genocidal killing of Vietnamese peasants. Are all the American soldiers who were forced to fight also war criminals?
 

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ifallalot said:
mundus said:
Still the uniform of treason, Nazi Germany had a draft too, does that absolve their soldiers as well?
Yes. It absolutely does

Based on their personal actions, of course.

Vietnam was a historic boondoggle that served no good purpose except nearly-genocidal killing of Vietnamese peasants. Are all the American soldiers who were forced to fight also war criminals?
No wonder why you have no problems with rightwing larpers dressed up as Nazis(fine people). On a serious note, you make a decent point.
 

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the janitor said:
we should probably start looking into what types of music politicians listened to back in the 70s, 80s and 90s as well
Lynyrd Skynyrd appears on stage with the stars and bars in the background. If you ever enjoyed a Lynyrd Skynyrd song or attended one of their concerts you are automatically disqualified from public service.