tapered vs fuller nose for me

[Random Guy]

i was checking out some boards today. I'm looking at something like an 6'8 x 20" x 2 1/2". I'm no kid, but want something more manuverable than my 7'10 x 21 1/2 x 3.

the 7'10 has some rocker to it and it's not a full nose. it's not pointy either, somewhere in the middle. One of the 6'8s, an exotic, had a much fuller less rockered than another 6'8 timmy patterson. other than that, they were pretty similar in shape.

i don't understand the benefit, or reason to get a fuller nose unless it's a longboard. the way i figure it, a more tapered nose with some rocker is going to be easier to paddle closer to the nose without pearling.

and the way my simple mind thinks id that a more tapered nose is going to have a tighter turning radius. and it think that's what I'm looking for in my next board.

the fuller nose adds volume, which for me, now ridin a board 3" thick, volume matters. I figure i still need some volume. But i can't see how any volume in the nose is going to help me.

yet these boards are out there. are they small wave boards for shortboarders? that's not me.

i could ask the guy at the shop, but honestly, i trust the collective board knowledge here more than anywhere.

what nose should i go for, somewhat tapered, or full?
cowabunga
rg

 

[JJay]

I got a Kechele stub fish, smaller than my thruster so it's mauverable, but with a fuller nose for getting into waves early.

http://www.kechelesurfboards.com/

check it out for example - I got the 6'0" and my normal shortboard is a 6'4".

Not sure what you are looking for, this is my summer board for the smaller waves, but the board is really fun up to about head high surf.

I need to get a new Thruster. or maybe a bonzer. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

JJ

 

[Waldo]

A little wider nose, along with a bit less entry rocker, will make for easier paddling and wave catching. They'll also give the board a bit more down-the-line drive. The tradeoff in both those cases is that it's not going to pivot straight up into the lip or come all the way around on a cutback quite as easily. And more volume puts a touch more swing weight up front.

Just depends on your waves and how you like to surf them. I went for a little more volume and a bit wider nose on my bonzer, which happens to be pretty close to that first set of dimensions you mentioned. Feel free to take it for a spin next time you're out here.

 

[Random Guy]

i'm expecting i'll have more trounle catching waves going 14inches shorter and a few inches narrower, but i kind of got used to the more tapered. i'm not talking pointy, just not full.
waldo, got a link handy for a pic of your board?
cowabunga
rg

 

[j]

I'm uneducated. I'm not a board builder. I rode a similar board to this one this morning. Having a fuller nose seems to let the shaper keep more volume over all...hence, easier paddling and planing.

<img src="http://www.brucejones.com/images/18880.jpg" alt=" - " />

 

[R3W]

I'd think something similar to that Parmenter you borrowed would work well for you.

 

[Random Guy]

jjay, the thing that scares me about that board is that its good for a shortboarder for small waves. that's not me. i'm looking to transition toward a shorter board in waves at least waist high. you think that's a good shape for someone like me (157lbs, 5'8", 40yrs old)

jjay, thanks. what about how easy it turns?
cowabunga
rg

 

[Waldo]

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Random Guy:
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waldo, got a link handy for a pic of your board?
cowabunga
rg</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Please excuse me - I was having a bad hair day.

Next board will be a trimmed-down version for better small wave performance.
Hopefully I will be too.

<img src="http://momentoffame.com/snapshots/MomentOfFame/l60375.jpg" alt=" - " />

 

[Random Guy]

thanks guys
r3w, man, i wish i'd gotten more of a chance to ride that board on some bigger waves. they were longboard days. but still, i liked the board. something along those lines i think, just a few inches shorter. that isn't too pointed or too full.

waldo, yours looks about like what i'm looking for. i haven't seen anything like it in the shops. they're all more one way or the other.

but waldo, with your abnormally disproportioned head, you may have some special board needs.
cowabunga
rg

 

[tom@daumtooling]

RG,
Next time your down my way, swing in I've got a back-up board you can try out for size that just might work for you. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

 

[Random Guy]

thanks tom, i may take you up on that. i appreciate the offer.
cowabunga
rg

 

[Waldo]

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Random Guy:
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waldo, yours looks about like what i'm looking for. i haven't seen anything like it in the shops. they're all more one way or the other.

but waldo, with your abnormally disproportioned head, you may have some special board needs.
cowabunga
rg</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah, I've never seen a board quite like mine - Bonzer or otherwise - in a shop either.

And my special needs extend well beyond board design.

 

[Waldo]

Had to double check on the board itself: Correct dimensions for mine are 6'9" x 12-1/2" x 20" x 14-1/2" x 2-9/16"

 

[Random Guy]

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Waldo:
<strong>Had to double check on the board itself: Correct dimensions for mine are 6'9" x 12-1/2" x 20" x 14-1/2" x 2-9/16"</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">i may got to a shaper with those
how far from the nose and tail are those 12-1/2 and 14-1/2
thanks
cowabunga
rg

 

[Waldo]

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Random Guy:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Waldo:
<strong>Had to double check on the board itself: Correct dimensions for mine are 6'9" x 12-1/2" x 20" x 14-1/2" x 2-9/16"</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">i may got to a shaper with those
how far from the nose and tail are those 12-1/2 and 14-1/2
thanks
cowabunga
rg</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I believe the standard is to measure one foot back from the nose and one foot up from the tail. It's yours to try riding when you come out.

Wanna get really confused sometime? Take a look at all the numbers on the stringer of one of Rusty's boards! So many digits on there that I'm not always sure which is which!

[ November 27, 2003, 09:56 AM: Message edited by: Waldo ]