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Ford is probably the next guy I'd get a board from if I don't end up making my own.
Correct!Apparently Steve Ford does the King's boards too?
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Freedom Foil Boards just got purchased by a bigger company and are transitioning. Chris ran everything out of his garage and was pretty swamped just selling on instagram, hence no dealers. He's still involved as the lead designer.
Foiling isn't big in surfing, probably never will be. It's not only hard to get started, it's downright scary at first. I came very close to selling my stuff the first time i had a hard fall onto the foil (taco).
When I got into foiling a couple years ago, there were already a lot of guys I would see every session that were double dippping and ripping like crazy (kookapinto). A lot of them I never see foiling anymore, I think because they "conquered the mountain." Most of us that stick with it are addicted to the glide, lack of crowd and challenge of trying not to paddle back to the lineup.
I don't know, weird, same thing for the WCFC.Yeah I wonder why guys like that stop. I wonder if it's because they have to make money from surfing and foiling isn't the answer there. So they have to go back to retro longboarding?
I agree that big brands foil boards made in China are way too expensive but when it comes to local shapers the price is right, it is a lot of work and most important a strong knowledge and experience.A buncha interesting themes in this thread:
-- big name shaper foil boards: I am cynical, maybe not as much as Northern Shores, but seems crazy to spend big bucks on a foil board. A lot of the "advanced technological performance" features advertised seem to be more about catching buyers than waves. And the beautifully artful clean perfect lines that are so admirable on a surfboard are mostly irrelevant on a foilboard. Where you really see this right now is in the new wingboarding craze....I've seen prices towards $2000 for a sub 6' rectangle built of space age composites. But if you have the money, then sexy shiny things are indeed nice to have.
I'll have to take your word for it, not yet many pro boards around here to try out. For now, my POS garage boards will have to do. ;-)I've seen so many people on "made in garage board", most of those were just a waist of money...If you think a foil board should just be a piece of foam with boxes you are totally wrong, you should try and you will motice the difference.
- paddling : the overall curve, the bottom, the outline, the rocker, the rails, the deck, will make you paddle easier and faster if everything is right. My 4'1 paddles way faster than 5'5 ???? ( I won't mane the brand).I agree that big brands foil boards made in China are way too expensive but when it comes to local shapers the price is right, it is a lot of work and most important a strong knowledge and experience.
I've seen so many people on "made in garage board", most of those were just a waist of money...
If you think a foil board should just be a piece of foam with boxes you are totally wrong, you should try and you will motice the difference.
The board might be not as important as the foil but it is very important. Try the best foil with a bad board and you won't get the most of it.
Each design feature you raise comes with pros and cons. If you attempt to improve any one aspect, it comes at the cost of losing performance on other aspects. That's "robbing Peter to pay Paul". Seems a little iffy to hack on a given brand's board paddling ability unless you weigh it against the rest of the package, what it does and doesn't do well.- paddling : the overall curve, the bottom, the outline, the rocker, the rails, the deck, will make you paddle easier and faster if everything is right. My 4'1 paddles way faster than 5'5 ???? ( I won't mane the brand).
flying : the flight can be so different regarding the board you are riding. Not just the dimension and the outiline, all the details will make a board work well or not.
For exemple I have noticed that recess deck make you feel more comfortable for paddling but also it gives you more control during the flight.
I'm not sure about the popular fancy double concave for surf foil (for sup I trully believe it helps a lot especially for DW). Seems that on surf foil it helps when you hit the white water, doesn't sitck, that the theory i heard. I'm still trying both bottom design, I have to do more sessions to find out.
One big bummer about foiling is how it screws up your regular surfing. I could see some really good surfers experiencing that and getting scared it will permanently f them up.I don't know, weird, same thing for the WCFC.
For me foiling is the best way to escape crowd.
Foiling definitely slows your conventional surfing down, all the riding aspects are more drawn out and subtle on the foil. Easy to forget how quick you have to turn on a shortboard to keep going fast.One big bummer about foiling is how it screws up your regular surfing. I could see some really good surfers experiencing that and getting scared it will permanently f them up.
i found it was more the back foot weighting that ruined me, took me weeks in reasonable waves to get back to 90% on a shortboard/surfboard.Foiling definitely slows your conventional surfing down, all the riding aspects are more drawn out and subtle on the foil. Easy to forget how quick you have to turn on a shortboard to keep going fast.
Is this true for most people?One big bummer about foiling is how it screws up your regular surfing.
Maybe I’m not normal. I can switch back and forth fine now. At first it was a bit harder.Is this true for most people?
I would say yes and no.Maybe I’m not normal. I can switch back and forth fine now. At first it was a bit harder.
Yes and no for me too. Getting on a surfboard after months of only foiling, I couldn't even paddle it, the instability side to side was shocking ... kind of a reminder of how difficult surfing is for newbs, the things we take for granted. It takes me 4 or 5 waves to get acclimatized, half a session to feel the board under me again.Is this true for most people?