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The notion that the vendors and insurers will magically bring their prices down if there's a competition is naive at best.GDaddy said:
I think prices will come down, at least for healthy 20-30 somethings, if one of these things happen:FecalFace said:The notion that the vendors and insurers will magically bring their prices down if there's a competition is naive at best.GDaddy said:
Unless there's government regulation in place, nothing will change.
And yes, public option needs to exist but cannot have the profit as a motivating factor.
That's why we have the expensive, unaffordable mess of a healthcare that we have.
I hope they resort to death panels.Sharkbiscuit said:I think prices will come down, at least for healthy 20-30 somethings, if one of these things happen:FecalFace said:The notion that the vendors and insurers will magically bring their prices down if there's a competition is naive at best.GDaddy said:
Unless there's government regulation in place, nothing will change.
And yes, public option needs to exist but cannot have the profit as a motivating factor.
That's why we have the expensive, unaffordable mess of a healthcare that we have.
We can tell people with expensive conditions to FOAD. (pre-existing conditions, and lifetime maximums)
We can tell old people they can be charged much, much more than 3x what a healthy 18 year old pays.
We can all buy ripoff plans that cover basically nothing, from whatever the shittiest state is. My money is on Alabama or Mississippi.
Seems pretty clear that the ACA is great if you're not worth keeping alive (in the income/actuarial sense) or you have no money, and utterly worthless everywhere else.
That happens by way of repeal. FYI, the PC term is "board-approved actuarial tables". This way we don't annoy the types who like to pretend free preventative care and free emergency room care are the same thing.frvcvs said:I hope they resort to death panels.Sharkbiscuit said:I think prices will come down, at least for healthy 20-30 somethings, if one of these things happen:FecalFace said:The notion that the vendors and insurers will magically bring their prices down if there's a competition is naive at best.GDaddy said:
Unless there's government regulation in place, nothing will change.
And yes, public option needs to exist but cannot have the profit as a motivating factor.
That's why we have the expensive, unaffordable mess of a healthcare that we have.
We can tell people with expensive conditions to FOAD. (pre-existing conditions, and lifetime maximums)
We can tell old people they can be charged much, much more than 3x what a healthy 18 year old pays.
We can all buy ripoff plans that cover basically nothing, from whatever the shittiest state is. My money is on Alabama or Mississippi.
Seems pretty clear that the ACA is great if you're not worth keeping alive (in the income/actuarial sense) or you have no money, and utterly worthless everywhere else.
