If you were a passenger hiring a boat to take you from point A to point B, but with no intention of paying, why would you announce that out of the blue only 100 yards from point A? "I don't have to pay you nothing" sounds like it would have been in response to a demand for payment and not something the passenger would have just volunteered before the boat arrived at its destination. Also, if you were a boat operator agreeing to take someone from point A to point B, putting that person ahead of others in exchange for payment, wouldn't you request payment up front? Last, what is the link between the passenger who announced his refusal to pay and the boat tour operators who have a grudge against the Koehne? How would the boat tour operators learn about the passenger's refusal to pay then somehow spin that around against Koehne? This whole situation is bizarre.
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PIRATES OF KAUAI
- Thread starter James -Bummer Jim-Devlin
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Not sure you want Barca speaking for you. Because even if what he says is true, it's still extortion...brukuns said:
Also, I saw a screenshot going around where Koehne admitted to the whole thing on facebook. He posted that he was charging for rides and then received a bunch of backlash and then deleted the post.
In a crisis situation, and with certain visitors to Hawaii (Hanalei especially because it draws wealthy travelers), I could see words getting heated and exchanged. If he truly didn't ask for money (maybe was offered and taken), then I feel bad for him because this type of attention (it's in the Washington Post) can ruin somebody and their family for generations.
I guess we'll find out.
I know if I lived on Kauai's North Shore I would have problems with all the visitors going in and out of Kalalau. Taking dumps, fucking up my backyard, Instagram posturing, some living back there for extended periods, using natural and man made resources, etc etc. without bringing much to the local economy.
I guess we'll find out.
I know if I lived on Kauai's North Shore I would have problems with all the visitors going in and out of Kalalau. Taking dumps, fucking up my backyard, Instagram posturing, some living back there for extended periods, using natural and man made resources, etc etc. without bringing much to the local economy.
well one of the victims was a local big island resident
"Big Island resident Liana Leaulii, who was hiking along the Kalalau Trail when the severe weather began, said that's exactly what happened to her.
"Once we were out in the middle of the ocean, they were like, ‘Did so-and-so on the beach tell you it was $200 a head on the boat?’“ said Leaulii."
Not really a haole tourist and it looks like she was unaware of whatever "deal" was made like Barca says. You never know but I don't think a local hiker would feel the need to pay to get out first
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"Big Island resident Liana Leaulii, who was hiking along the Kalalau Trail when the severe weather began, said that's exactly what happened to her.
"Once we were out in the middle of the ocean, they were like, ‘Did so-and-so on the beach tell you it was $200 a head on the boat?’“ said Leaulii."
Not really a haole tourist and it looks like she was unaware of whatever "deal" was made like Barca says. You never know but I don't think a local hiker would feel the need to pay to get out first
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It's so rough to be a white person. From minute to minute it's like, what are the people in power going to do to this poor white man next? What fresh hell awaits me this day?Duffy said:
The times I've been to Kalalau it was like Fraggle Rock back there. Naked stink freeloaders bugging me to 'trade' them for stuff. Fck off! When the 'ticket writing' boats would be coming up the coast, they would scatter like rats.Racer1 said:
It'll be interesting to see what the outcome is, if the truth does come out after many billable hours by blood sucking lawyers.
No good deed goes unpunished.
What I would think would be the proper attitude for a "rescuer": Expect nothing, be grateful if offered. From those being rescued: If you can afford it, offer to give a little. There's karma involved here -- making a rescue transactional feels really wrong to me -- looks like both parties may be to blame.
As to running illegal boat trips -- no better way to **** off the locals than to cut in on their action.
What I would think would be the proper attitude for a "rescuer": Expect nothing, be grateful if offered. From those being rescued: If you can afford it, offer to give a little. There's karma involved here -- making a rescue transactional feels really wrong to me -- looks like both parties may be to blame.
As to running illegal boat trips -- no better way to **** off the locals than to cut in on their action.
