****Official Unofficial Putin-Trump Summit Thread****

Billy Ocean

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hal9000 said:
Even Faux News can't keep up the ruse anymore.

Trump: all I can do is ask the question.

No, d*ckhead, you can read the intelligence briefings, you know, the ones containing all the FACTS.

[video:youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M2EBMKw2TQ[/video]
You mean the intelligence peeps who spied on the D as a candidate?

The ones who exonerated Hillary and crew

The ones who threatened trump when he came into office?

Those guys

Yeah, let’s trust them
 

Kento

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Keeping the illegal immigrants and deporting the Trump supporters sounds like a better idea every day.

Hard drug use goes down, increased worker productivity, increased family values, increased value of education, oh the list goes on. :computer:
 

Kento

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BillyOcean said:
when you hate America, how is it possible to get so mad about someone betraying it??
Uh it's you and your ilk who claimed America was in the shitter and needed to be made "great" again. :crazy2:

 

sirfun

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BillyOcean said:
hal9000 said:
Even Faux News can't keep up the ruse anymore.

Trump: all I can do is ask the question.

No, d*ckhead, you can read the intelligence briefings, you know, the ones containing all the FACTS.

[video:youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M2EBMKw2TQ[/video]
You mean the intelligence peeps who spied on the D as a candidate?

The ones who exonerated Hillary and crew

The ones who threatened trump when he came into office?

Those guys

Yeah, let’s trust them
if you were Putin

would you threaten doofus potus

more with the release of pee tape

or smoking gun collusion evidence ?? )

 

studog

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sirfun said:
if you were Putin

would you threaten doofus potus

more with the release of pee tape

or smoking gun collusion evidence ?? )

damage is done already. Putin doesn't have to release anything. He's nearly accomplished everything. Cheeto's done all his bidding across Europe. Even Putin knows Congress isn't going to do anything against Cheeto.
 

sirfun

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stu dog said:
sirfun said:
if you were Putin

would you threaten doofus potus

more with the release of pee tape

or smoking gun collusion evidence ?? )

damage is done already. Putin doesn't have to release anything. He's nearly accomplished everything. Cheeto's done all his bidding across Europe. Even Putin knows Congress isn't going to do anything against Cheeto.
doofus potus !! )

Pride of America !! )

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Gnudz

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BillyOcean said:
Gnudz said:
Trump supporters can no longer claim ignorance or innocence.

Trump completely exposed himself today and even they were forced to see him for who he really is.

Not that they'll admit it. They will continue to bury their heads in the sand, makes false comparisons, push even crazier conspiracy theories, blame Hillary, etc...

Even those Republicans who criticize the President today will put their heads down tomorrow and continue down the same path, like toads in increasingly hot water.

But they are all complicit now and even they know it.

Arguing with them does nothing. Time to take names.
Psycho alert!
1) BillyOcean
 

SharkBoy

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Wow, Trump who has been talking tough for so long, just bent over and backed up while the world took pictures.
 

grapedrink

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BillyOcean said:
The entire collusion thing is fake- why would he validate that?
Um, maybe because the Russian troll farm activity on facebook leading up to the election is 100% factual and verified :confused2: I doubt that it was enough to sway enough votes, and Trump's campaign may have not been involved, but the activity by Russia is indisputable.
You seem to have trouble separating accusations of collusion with the facebook PR interference. Even if the the collusion is fake, that does not disqualify the Russian troll farms that made every attempt to sway public opinion in favor of Trump. The "fake news" reporter who had one of the last questions during the conference called Trump on that specifically, who then went into a Hillary rant because he knew the reporter was right.
:foreheadslap:
 

FecalFace

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grapedrink said:
BillyOcean said:
The entire collusion thing is fake- why would he validate that?
Um, maybe because the Russian troll farm activity on facebook leading up to the election is 100% factual and verified :confused2: I doubt that it was enough to sway enough votes, and Trump's campaign may have not been involved, but the activity by Russia is indisputable.
Facebook influence on elections is huge.

214 million users in the US

62 million voted for Trump in 2016

 

hal9000

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sirfun said:
if you were Putin

would you threaten doofus potus

more with the release of pee tape

or smoking gun collusion evidence ?? )
It doesn't matter at this point, it's all gravy for Putin now. He got almost everything he wanted and didn't have to burn one extra calorie to do it. Trump did all the heavy lifting for him.
 

hal9000

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I can't believe that Leftist rag, the Wall Street Journal, going after Trump like this.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-leaves-gop-intelligence-community-and-allies-in-the-hot-seat-1531772328


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It was possible that Vladimir Putin would be the man in a tough spot after his summit meeting Monday with President Donald Trump.

Instead, most of the squirming is being done not by the Russian leader, but by Republicans in Congress, by the American intelligence community and by overseas allies.

All of them were left in limbo by Mr. Trump’s decision not to challenge Mr. Putin publicly about any of the toughest issues between Washington and Moscow: Russia’s annexation of Crimea, its interference in eastern Ukraine, the poisoning of Russian exiles in London or Russian meddling in the 2016 election.

At least at the postsummit press conference, Mr. Putin escaped the meeting in Helsinki with the U.S. president appearing to accept his denials of official Russian interference in American politics, and without having been called out by his counterpart on any of those other deeds.

In one indicator of how that went down back in Russia, as Mr. Putin flew home a headline on the website of RT, the Russian television network, blared: “I wanted Trump to win—Putin.”

But for Mr. Trump’s potential friends, the equation was different. Most Republicans want a tougher line on Russia than the president offered. The intelligence community has said repeatedly—including in a statement issued just hours after the close of the summit—that it believes Russia meddled in the 2016 election, while the nation’s top intelligence official, Trump appointee Dan Coats, said just last week the Russians are preparing to do so again.

Allies such as Angela Merkel of Germany and Emmanuel Macron of France having been publicly skewered by Mr. Trump, now doubtless will wonder why Mr. Putin got no such rebuke—and whether the president will have their back as they seek to continue economic sanctions and otherwise confront Mr. Putin over Russia’s interference in Ukraine.

There are, of course, others who will find no problem in how Mr. Trump chose to handle the summit and the public presentation of it. Though Trump voters are only marginally more favorable toward Mr. Putin and Russia than are other Americans—just 19% of Trump voters told Wall Street Journal/NBC News pollsters this spring they saw Russia as an ally, compared with 16% of Americans generally—Trump voters also have shown consistently that they are inclined to trust the president’s handling of Russia.

“Republicans should defend the president,” said John Feehery, a former top Republican staffer in the House. “I watched the press conference and I found it to be about what I expected it to be, typical Trump. It wasn’t treasonous. It wasn’t embarrassing.”

More Republicans expressed open disagreement with the president’s approach, though. The most vociferous, not surprisingly, was Sen. John McCain, the most outspoken of GOP critics, who issued a blistering statement that called Mr. Trump’s press conference “one of the most disgraceful performances by an American president in memory.” Mr. Trump, he added, had “abased himself…before a tyrant.”
 

grapedrink

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FecalFace said:
grapedrink said:
BillyOcean said:
The entire collusion thing is fake- why would he validate that?
Um, maybe because the Russian troll farm activity on facebook leading up to the election is 100% factual and verified :confused2: I doubt that it was enough to sway enough votes, and Trump's campaign may have not been involved, but the activity by Russia is indisputable.
Facebook influence on elections is huge.

214 million users in the US

62 million voted for Trump in 2016
I don't disagree that facebook is huge and influential, and that swing voters in key states are a crucial and vulnerable demographic. The problem is that it is almost impossible to quantify the overall impact of this type of PR campaign. How do you determine the number of voters who were on the fence, who regularly scrolled facebook and engaged in facebook political commentaries, who were then consciously or sub-consciously swayed to vote for Trump?

Again- my broader point was not how much the troll farm facebook activity had an influence. It's the fact that it absolutely happened, and Trump refused to acknowledge it :toilet:
 

hal9000

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To the Trump supporters: Do you actually think this was a strong showing for Trump today? You can't honestly say he didn't look weak and obsequious.
 

Ifallalot

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grapedrink said:
BillyOcean said:
The entire collusion thing is fake- why would he validate that?
Um, maybe because the Russian troll farm activity on facebook leading up to the election is 100% factual and verified :confused2: I doubt that it was enough to sway enough votes, and Trump's campaign may have not been involved, but the activity by Russia is indisputable.
You seem to have trouble separating accusations of collusion with the facebook PR interference. Even if the the collusion is fake, that does not disqualify the Russian troll farms that made every attempt to sway public opinion in favor of Trump. The "fake news" reporter who had one of the last questions during the conference called Trump on that specifically, who then went into a Hillary rant because he knew the reporter was right.
:foreheadslap:
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