Nose rocker on a barrel board

[pssbrah]

I am comparing aspects of two potential step ups. I guess a little less rocker in the nose paddles and gets you over the ledge better, but once in you wont fit in the tube as well.

What do you guys like for nose rocker on a board that is only for barrels?

 

[Clamsmasher]

Overall curve matters, not just flat nose verses curry nose. Depends on the wave too, you can surf extremely flat boards in hollow stuff if you can get in early and set yourself up. Just gotta watch a classic fish under skilled feet.

 

[GromsDad]

Watch recent videos of Mason Ho riding Pipeline on big, long, curvey boards like we were riding in the late 80s. For the average surfer who wants to get some barrel time this is the best solution.

 

[Sharkbiscuit]

I am comparing aspects of two potential step ups. I guess a little less rocker in the nose paddles and gets you over the ledge better, but once in you wont fit in the tube as well.

What do you guys like for nose rocker on a board that is only for barrels?

I only really consider nose rocker re:tubes in the context of entry/drop. If it's a suckout ledge I want a little more flip. If it's higher line runners I want less flip.

You could have a decent bit of nose rocker on a heavier glassed, larger board, and that board is not going to weave in the tube, but it could rule a lineup with nasty heavers to chase down, and could plow out of turbulence well.

OG Rocket has lower nose rocker and in little chest-shoulder throwers it makes little adjustments well. Since it's short and has an assload of tail rocker, it handles ledge drops (in small surf) quite well considering width/rocker up front.

 

[pssbrah]

Thanks for the input. The wave I wanna surf it at is a big high line almond barrel. I was wondering if more nose rocker will help me angle at the drop and make the line undere the lip but I think I will go a little flatter so that I can get in early and just point it. Gonna go with an MBM rounded pin. Was considering the K step which has more nose rocker.

 

[paunch23]

some good info here. https://vimeo.com/19503664

 

[pssbrah]

some good info here. https://vimeo.com/19503664

Thats pretty cool. So a lack of nose rocker can be made up with tail rocker in a continous curve. Thing is I dont seem to like continuous rocker that much.

 

[paunch23]

This has been my experience.
Lost round tail driver vs stretch thing v2.

The way they redirect is totally different yet the radius of the turn is similar.
I have to be back foot heavy on the stretch and the foot placement has to be more precise. But the board has more glide.

The lost is "easier" to redirect but i have to be careful not to shed too much speed cuz i might bog.

I think there's more benefits to the stretch rocker. Lower entry , average tail.

 

[brukuns]

You should look into this beauty...

http://dhdsurf.com/surfboards/sweet-spot-20/

 

[MrSteve]

some good info here. https://vimeo.com/19503664

Good 'ol Roy Stuart chiming in the comments section as well...

 

[frontsidegrab]

some good info here. https://vimeo.com/19503664

Really cool. Havent seen that before. That's exactly the feel that got me hooked on the stretch shapes. The continuous rocker exaggerates control over parallel weight shifting. Adds another dimension.
I take tail rocker over nose rocker any day.

 

[manbearpig]

I've always had my good wave boards with some flip on the nose. I've been more intrigued lately with the lower nose rocker and more in tail like stretch does it. His simple explanation of stepping on the tail is a way to add or reduce rocker made a lot of sense.

 

[griffinsurfboard]

3" nose

3 1/2" tail

 

[caramel_Sea]

More tail rocker than a 9'6"

 

[griffinsurfboard]

No shortboard has 3 1/2" of tail rocker

 

[caramel_Sea]

But you can do wheelies on them!

 

[Tomay]

What's everyone's thoughts on volume for this sort of board?

I am thinking of getting something for my local spot which produces good sucky beach break barrels but I don't often surf it when it gets too big. That said I would like a board to get into the wave a bit earlier and make some of the harder take offs to set up for the tube. I was thinking something almost semi gun ish just to allow me to paddle in early before people and line her up but that might be overkill for the size I surf it at??

 

[pssbrah]

What's everyone's thoughts on volume for this sort of board?

I am thinking of getting something for my local spot which produces good sucky beach break barrels but I don't often surf it when it gets too big. That said I would like a board to get into the wave a bit earlier and make some of the harder take offs to set up for the tube. I was thinking something almost semi gun ish just to allow me to paddle in early before people and line her up but that might be overkill for the size I surf it at??

Its going to be relative to what your DD volume is. I ended up ordering a classic type of stepup. Similar to my "good wave DD" the length is only +2" but it ends up being 4 Liters more. I dont think I would go with a traditional semi gun for what you describe, just a nice beefy stepup.