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Is it time to start euthanizing the homeless?
- Thread starter VonMeister
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BillyOcean said:
That's where the state mental hospital should come into play.
People that for the most part are capable of functioning normally are the ones I'm referring to.
They have to choose sobriety over addiction.
This is true whether one falls into the "It's a disease" or "It's a choice" camps. Or a mix of both. You have to choose sobriety over addiction.
Addiction is a choice!casa_mugrienta said:
Just like poverty.
Just pull yourself by the bootstraps you fvcking hobos and stop being addicted.
Our in-house medical expert has spoken.
Honestly, most homeless are just lazy fvcks that took a few too many wrong turns.
They won't work, because they choose not to. I never see any homeless standing around the day labor pick up spots. But I see lots of them a block away at the Salvation Army rescue center.
I don't see too many of them buying some food at the grocery store, but i see lots of them sleeping in the park with a couple of 40 oz. empties laying near by.
They won't work, because they choose not to. I never see any homeless standing around the day labor pick up spots. But I see lots of them a block away at the Salvation Army rescue center.
I don't see too many of them buying some food at the grocery store, but i see lots of them sleeping in the park with a couple of 40 oz. empties laying near by.
Yes, that is a part. Try asking a street corner of homeless if they want to get in your truck, and pick avocados or strawberries for a day to see the bigger part of the problem.stu dog said:
Addiction is a choice. Drugs are expensive. Nobody accidentally fell into a pile of meth. The number of medical patients who got addicted to opiates, and their doctor would not help them get off is tiny. I've had surgeries. I've been given opiates. It is a choice to continue them after the prescription runs out, rather than saying doctor, I have a problem.FecalFace said:
Yeah, people will complain about the cost of state run mental institutions but its not like there isn't currently a cost in the form of local police dealing with them, home owners and businesses cleaning trash, bodily fluids, needles etc.BillyOcean said:
They should just turn abandoned shopping malls and stadiums into homeless rescues where they can get free drugs and booze. Offer counseling if they want it. Maybe they'll turn it around, maybe not.
or now the cost of having to build new homeless housing. kind of a new replacement for state hospitals we should have kept funding. instead now there's a new tax and more bureaucracy added on top. it's not like the state couldn't afford it with our massive rainy day fund that hasn't been tapped since the financial meltdown when it started.Phi1 said:
In the strictest sense sure, it was a choice. But if you're schizophrenic or bi polar or something and you had crappy health insurance and are poor, the choice might be between total misery and partial misery. I get where you're coming from I think, but once someone falls that far I'm thinking we can do better than just accepting BLM style camping in our cities while we collectively walk past, latte in one hand, phone in the otherifallalot said:
That's why we need state mental hospitals.the janitor said:In the strictest sense sure, it was a choice. But if you're schizophrenic or bi polar or something and you had crappy health insurance and are poor, the choice might be between total misery and partial misery. I get where you're coming from I think, but once someone falls that far I'm thinking we can do better than just accepting BLM style camping in our cities while we collectively walk past, latte in one hand, phone in the otherifallalot said:
Maybe you missed the whole two wars for nearly 20 years thing wherein the VA was chucking Oxy around like mad for the first decade - and then decided to abruptly shut off the tap - which led to Vets switching over to heroin thing?everysurfr said:
Free will is a spectrumifallalot said:
I’m not saying addicts, homeless, etc have no responsibility but the level of meaningful choosing really varies
If you are mentally handicapped do you really understand the risk of taking heroin?
I had an uncle who developed schizophrenia in college
He was a math major at an Ivy then went completely off the rails and disappeared
My other uncle found out a couple of decades later that he died as a homeless man
People think they have their sh!t together but you never really know
Yeah, we probably do need more mental hospitalscasa_mugrienta said:
But the old ones were pretty cruel
There’s a lot of quackery in mental health
I'm really aware of what big pharma did. They should be in jail as drug dealers. However... If you look at the homeless encampments, the percentages aren't injured soldiers, who were prescribed pain meds by careless doctor's. The high percentages are the kid we knew growing up, who didn't do their homework, didn't listen to the teachers, didn't listen to authority, didn't do sports or get a summer job, and they thought the could get by with just acting cool.the janitor said:Maybe you missed the whole two wars for nearly 20 years thing wherein the VA was chucking Oxy around like mad for the first decade - and then decided to abruptly shut off the tap - which led to Vets switching over to heroin thing?everysurfr said:
Life and Darwinism are an unkind mistress.
Fentynal is a killer.
But the homeless problem is multi variate.
It's really hard to live a "normal" life if you are in a low paying job.
That is priming the nervous system of said homeless.
The 10% number of people having addiction issues is pretty consistent.
Though I see a lot of denial of this fact.
But the homeless problem is multi variate.
It's really hard to live a "normal" life if you are in a low paying job.
That is priming the nervous system of said homeless.
The 10% number of people having addiction issues is pretty consistent.
Though I see a lot of denial of this fact.