How many COVID narratives have been labeled conspiracy theorists & disinfo that later proved true or at least enough merit to warrant investigation?

grapedrink

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-Natural immunity > vaccine immunity because of the broader range of more long lasting antibodies
-Limitations of masks
-Vaccine interruption of menstrual cycles
-Myocarditis in young men
-Likelihood of the lab leak

Am I missing anything :unsure:
 

crustBrother

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-Natural immunity > vaccine immunity because of the broader range of more long lasting antibodies
-Limitations of masks
-Vaccine interruption of menstrual cycles
-Myocarditis in young men
-Likelihood of the lab leak

Am I missing anything :unsure:
-its not censorship, its just platform owners moderating content... oh, no, actually its the FBI telling platform owners who/what to silence
 

Sharky

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Il Duce Newsome had himself a little setback.


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Jan 26 (Reuters) - A U.S. judge has blocked a California law that sought to penalize doctors who spread "misinformation or disinformation" about COVID-19 while he considers a pair lawsuits challenging it on free speech grounds.

Senior U.S. District Judge William Shubb in Sacramento ruled on Wednesday that Assembly Bill 2098, which was signed last October by California Governor Gavin Newsom, a Democrat, was too vague for doctors to know what kind of statements might put them at risk of being penalized."COVID-19 is a quickly evolving area of science that in many aspects eludes consensus," he wrote.

The preliminary order means that the law cannot be enforced while Shubb hears two lawsuits brought against the law shortly after its passage last year - one by a group of five doctors, and another by a doctor and two advocacy groups including Robert F. Kennedy Jr's Children's Health Defense, which has long promoted false information about standard childhood vaccines.

"This Act is a blatant attempt to silence doctors whose views, though based on thorough scientific research, deviate from the government-approved 'party line,'" said Greg Dolin of the New Civil Liberties Alliance, a lawyer for the doctors, in a statement. "At no point has the State of California been able to articulate the line between permissible and impermissible speech."

Newsom's office did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Under AB 2098, doctors can be disciplined for spreading misinformation about COVID, defined as "false information that is contradicted by contemporary scientific consensus contrary to the standard of care."

The doctors said in their lawsuit that the law gave them no way to know what was "contemporary scientific consensus," and violated their right to free speech under the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.
 

PRCD

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Il Duce Newsome had himself a little setback.


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Jan 26 (Reuters) - A U.S. judge has blocked a California law that sought to penalize doctors who spread "misinformation or disinformation" about COVID-19 while he considers a pair lawsuits challenging it on free speech grounds.

Senior U.S. District Judge William Shubb in Sacramento ruled on Wednesday that Assembly Bill 2098, which was signed last October by California Governor Gavin Newsom, a Democrat, was too vague for doctors to know what kind of statements might put them at risk of being penalized."COVID-19 is a quickly evolving area of science that in many aspects eludes consensus," he wrote.

The preliminary order means that the law cannot be enforced while Shubb hears two lawsuits brought against the law shortly after its passage last year - one by a group of five doctors, and another by a doctor and two advocacy groups including Robert F. Kennedy Jr's Children's Health Defense, which has long promoted false information about standard childhood vaccines.

"This Act is a blatant attempt to silence doctors whose views, though based on thorough scientific research, deviate from the government-approved 'party line,'" said Greg Dolin of the New Civil Liberties Alliance, a lawyer for the doctors, in a statement. "At no point has the State of California been able to articulate the line between permissible and impermissible speech."

Newsom's office did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Under AB 2098, doctors can be disciplined for spreading misinformation about COVID, defined as "false information that is contradicted by contemporary scientific consensus contrary to the standard of care."

The doctors said in their lawsuit that the law gave them no way to know what was "contemporary scientific consensus," and violated their right to free speech under the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.
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afoaf

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-Natural immunity > vaccine immunity because of the broader range of more long lasting antibodies
as has been previously posted, vaccinated have more protection against death

-Limitations of masks
no one said masks were a silver bullet, said for the one thousandth fkn time

-Vaccine interruption of menstrual cycles
it's interesting that this one is not being discussed more

-Myocarditis in young men
myocarditis occurs at a higher rate among people with covid

-Likelihood of the lab leak
"proved true..." I like that you at least had the integrity to hedge on that one in your thread title

Am I missing anything :unsure:
you're clearly missing a lot

great thread, bud!

NEVER STOP NEVER FORGETTING!
 

crustBrother

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as has been previously posted, vaccinated have more protection against death
i'm still looking for the numbers on all-cause mortality, vaccinated vs unvaccinated, for 2022
it's interesting that this one is not being discussed more
yeah, it seems that for most women the effects are minor and short lived, but given that we were surprised to find *any* impact on menstrual cycle it seems like we would want to discover what is causing that rather than just sweeping it under the rug and ignoring it

:shrug:
 
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Ifallalot

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as has been previously posted, vaccinated have more protection against death



no one said masks were a silver bullet, said for the one thousandth fkn time



it's interesting that this one is not being discussed more



myocarditis occurs at a higher rate among people with covid



"proved true..." I like that you at least had the integrity to hedge on that one in your thread title



you're clearly missing a lot

great thread, bud!

NEVER STOP NEVER FORGETTING!
PROTEX
 

afoaf

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Except for teenage boys.
which is also a transient condition and life threatening at a rate lower than covid is life threatening for the same cohort

you guys are really bad at this

yeah, it seems that for most women the effects are minor and short lived, but given that we were surprised to find *any* impact on menstrual cycle it seems like we would want to discover what is causing that rather than just sweeping it under the rug and ignoring it
I know one homegirl who was anemic because she was effectively permanently menstruating

they were pitching her on a hysterectomy!

that said, it doesn't seem the rate of this issue is high otherwise I reckon there'd be a lot more discussion about it
 

mundus

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which is also a transient condition and life threatening at a rate lower than covid is life threatening for the same cohort

you guys are really bad at this
it is what results from contrarians of limited intellect who have convinced themselves they are the smartest people in the room.
 
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Phi1

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Sorry we lumped you together with the horse-pasters, masks cause hypoxi’ers, 5g mind controllers, hydroxychloro-queens, vaccines made me magnetic and now I’m microchipped-ers, and the masks are mind controllers.

It’s great that natural immunity has a broader range of more long lasting antibodies. Just need to get COVID to have better protection against (checks notes) getting COVID. :D
 

crustBrother

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it doesn't seem the rate of this issue is high
"The proportion of individuals who had a clinically significant change in cycle length of eight days or more was significantly higher in the vaccinated group during both the first and second vaccine dose cycles (6.2% (929 of 14 936 for the first dose and 597 of 9 600 for the second dose) compared with 5.0% (236 of 4686 for the first dose and 222 of 4423 for the second dose) in the unvaccinated for both cycles; adjusted P=0.019 for the first dose and 0.034 for the second dose)."

6.2%

:shrug: