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Guitar Pedals (help....)

Boneroni

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I know plenty of you guys are gear guys or actual professional guitarists, so help me erBB brain trust!

I've started playing with some guys and I need to basically start from scratch on my tone.
Even though I've been playing over 25 yrs (semiprofessionally for about 6 years) I've only ever played with tube distortion or clean with light verb.

I'm playing out of a small Bose. It's 60 watts and basically flat response.

I'm looking to get pedals for reverb, distortion/overdrive, octave, and chorus/vibrato/weird sounds. (I have a delay pedal)

Any reccomendations without breaking the bank?
Anything to specifically avoid?

Thanks! :waving:

For your troubles..... (please forgive the lack of hot lady photo. I want to be able to reference this thread while sitting next to my wife, lol)
 
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Boneroni

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I'm likely going to buy this (used) today.
Seems like there's lots of weird sounds as well as conventional chorus or verb
 
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Bose guitar amp? Like with an amp modeler or what?

There are so, so many directions you can go with guitar pedals. What kind of overdriven tones are you seeking?
 
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Boneroni

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bird.LA said:
Bose guitar amp? Like with an amp modeler or what?

What kind of overdriven tones are you seeking?
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The bose amp is more like a PA, kinda. No amp modeling or tones at all, besides basic EQ and reverb. I got it for playing classical guitar.

I'm looking for mid-high gain (but clear) rock distortion, and I'd also like an overdrive with a buttery mid boost for playing lead.
 
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I'd get a good guitar amp instead of using the bose. I gigged for years with just a boogie mark II. It has decent reverb and I'd roll off the volume for rhythm and crank it for leads. Pedals weaken your sound IMO. Santana said once that a lot of guys have chops but when they play it's like shooting blanks. He was referring to their commitment to what they were playing, but also their sound.

One band I played with had another guitarist who was a gear head and he had a pedal board. No comparison between the impact of our tones. He's a good player but his tone doesn't have the impact you get when you go straight into a good amp. Of course if you want chorus, echo, flange, then you gotta do it. But just for gain and reverb you don't need no stinkin pedals.

Unfortunately the amp is way more expensive than a pedal.
 
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Respectively disagree with the previous response that pedals weaken your sound. (Though I agree that you'd be best off playing through a tube amp.)

You do need some sort of amp modeling though with your setup if you're trying to produce the types of tones most people are going to expect from you in a band situation.

A pre-amp pedal like this one - Strymon Iridium - would give you a lot of what you're looking for in one package. Different clean and dirty tones + some verb.
 
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Boneroni

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Yeah, I do miss playing through a high gain tube amp. One of my favorites was a soldano. It fckn screamed punk gain, but every chord tone was still audible, even on big open chords. It only had one channel, though, so I had to A/B to my little marshal practice amp for the 2 songs that had clean tone. :roflmao:

This is a much different project. I think I'll be playing clean w/effects most of the time, with occasional rock distortion.

I do have a line 6 POD that i've played through at home for years. Is that amp modeling better for distortion than using pedals? Maybe I haven't dug into it enough, but it sounds a bit squashed overall to me.
 
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I think you need to take a step back and look at why/how people are using pedals with their amps in the first place.

This is kind of a long video, but has a lot of good info packed in:


Your clean tones through your Bose are not going to sound like clean tones through an amp. Maybe more like a Beatles guitar straight into the mixing board sound which is cool, but prob not what you want most of the time. A modeler like the POD or the Strymon pedal I linked will get you closer to sounding like the real deal. You could put other pedals in front of them. I expect the Strymon would handle other pedals better than the POD, but IDK. Haven't used either myself.
 
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catainbread dirty little secret will give you that marshall tone when you want it.
electro harmonics oceans 11 when you wanna get weird.
big muff when you wanna be j mascis

www.sweetwater.com

Electro-Harmonix Oceans 11 Reverb Pedal

Reverb Effects Pedal for Electric Guitar, with 11 Reverb Algorithms, and External Footswitch Input
www.sweetwater.com www.sweetwater.com

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Catalinbread Dirty Little Secret Foundation Overdrive Pedal

Overdrive Pedal with Treble, Middle, Bass, Pre-amp, and Master Controls
www.sweetwater.com www.sweetwater.com

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Electro-Harmonix Ram's Head Big Muff Pi Fuzz Pedal

Fuzz Effects Pedal with Volume, Tone, and Sustain Controls
www.sweetwater.com www.sweetwater.com
 
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waxhead said:
I'd get a good guitar amp instead of using the bose.
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Your clean tones through your Bose are not going to sound like clean tones through an amp.
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I agree.

I am by no means an expert.

But the amp is the base of your sound.

You could have every pedal on the planet but if your amp sucks it's lipstick on a pig.

Also, you're a homeowner, right?

This means you can play at full volume on the regular.

That is such a privilege.

You should take full advantage of that, lose the Bose, and buy a real amp. And enjoy it.
 
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+infinity, get a real amp with tubes. no modelers, no od pedals, fuq solid state - just tubes.

you don’t need a loud amp that breaks your back or your ears. worst case you could mic a 10” combo tube amp and run that into your flat response Bose for more volume or better sound stage.

small tube amps @10 FTW. Mic it and run it through solid state and it will sound better than your solid state amp with pedals.

reverb pedals work fine and some even have a weird mode (EH holy grail). you may want to consider an amp with an effects loop if youre really trying to get weird. I think Kustom makes affordable tube amps that review well and have the bells and whistles (2ch, fx loop) of typically bigger or more expensive stuff.
 
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Boneroni said:
I'm likely going to buy this (used) today.
Seems like there's lots of weird sounds as well as conventional chorus or verb
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I almost got one of those for my electric fiddle, but I went with the Afterneath instead.
For weird noises, the Red Panda Particle delay is endlessly entertaining.
For really nasty fuzz, may I suggest the Death By Audio Fuzz War pedal?
And I second the Holy Grail reverb pedal, although there are all kinds of fancier ones out there.
 
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Ditto the DSL. If you are playing guitar through a PA speaker, you need an amp in the box-type pedal. Catalinbread makes a lot of those, in various flavors. DSL, Monarch, the Formula pedals.
 
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Boneroni said:
I know plenty of you guys are gear guys or actual professional guitarists, so help me erBB brain trust!

I've started playing with some guys and I need to basically start from scratch on my tone.
Even though I've been playing over 25 yrs (semiprofessionally for about 6 years) I've only ever played with tube distortion or clean with light verb.

I'm playing out of a small Bose. It's 60 watts and basically flat response.

I'm looking to get pedals for reverb, distortion/overdrive, octave, and chorus/vibrato/weird sounds. (I have a delay pedal)

Any reccomendations without breaking the bank?
Anything to specifically avoid?

Thanks! :waving:

For your troubles..... (please forgive the lack of hot lady photo. I want to be able to reference this thread while sitting next to my wife, lol)
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You need a Boss Katana. Get the 100w and thank me later
 
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I really like my 50 w Katana amp.

It sounds good for a not being a tube amp.

When it sounds bad it's my shitty playing

A couple of times I have jammed with my friend who is playing on drums an it sounded great.

IT has a bunch of effects too.

And it's cheap.
 
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casa_mugrienta said:
I agree.

I am by no means an expert.

But the amp is the base of your sound.

You could have every pedal on the planet but if your amp sucks it's lipstick on a pig.

Also, you're a homeowner, right?

This means you can play at full volume on the regular.

That is such a privilege.

You should take full advantage of that, lose the Bose, and buy a real amp. And enjoy it.
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Did you buy an amp?
 
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