For those who still don't understand "collusion"

[StuAzole]

Here the story. It's not just getting information from another nation - it's an illegal quid-pro-quo:

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/376182-watergate-prosecutor-trump-russia-quid-pro-quo-was-about

"What we're dealing with here is a conspiracy to break into the Democratic National Committee, steal emails, and use those emails to help Trump get elected, and the quid-pro-quo for that was the dropping of sanctions," Ackerman told MSNBC's Chris Hayes.

 

[Gnudz]

Ackerman's theory is entirely possible, maybe even probable, but it's far from proven at this point. We'll have to wait to see what Mueller and the Senate committee come up with.

 

[StuAzole]

Ackerman's theory is entirely possible, maybe even probable, but it's far from proven at this point. We'll have to wait to see what Mueller and the Senate committee come up with.

I didn't mean to imply otherwise.

But I've seen it 100 times here - "Hillary got information on Trump from the Ukraine - COLLUSION".

 

[hal9000]

Former Watergate prosecutor Nick Ackerman said on Wednesday that any alleged quid pro quo between the Trump campaign and Russia's election meddling would lie in the Trump administration dropping U.S. sanctions against Russia.

"What we're dealing with here is a conspiracy to break into the Democratic National Committee, steal emails, and use those emails to help Trump get elected, and the quid pro quo for that was the dropping of sanctions," Ackerman told MSNBC's Chris Hayes.

 

[GromsDad]

"What we're dealing with here is a conspiracy to break into the Democratic National Committee, steal emails, and use those emails to help Trump get elected, and the quid-pro-quo for that was the dropping of sanctions," Ackerman told MSNBC's Chris Hayes.

For which there is no proof. Give it up and move on with your life.

 

[StuAzole]

"What we're dealing with here is a conspiracy to break into the Democratic National Committee, steal emails, and use those emails to help Trump get elected, and the quid-pro-quo for that was the dropping of sanctions," Ackerman told MSNBC's Chris Hayes.

For which there is no proof. Give it up and move on with your life.

I love the confidence.

But you shouldn't worry - Trump taking your guns is the more pressing issue. Or will you root for Mueller now so he'll stop that?

 

[sizzld1]

This article notes some very interesting aspects of the Schiff memo that seem to have been overlooked. Check it out GromsDad. See what you think buddy.

https://www.justsecurity.org/53241/russians-previewed-plan-disseminate-emails-trump-campaign/

Prior to the memo, we knew that a Russian agent told Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos of “Moscow possessing ‘dirt’” on Hillary Clinton “in the form of ‘thousands of emails,’” according to Papadopoulos’s plea statement. The memo went a legally significant step further. As Rep. Adam Schiff recently told Chris Hayes, “our memo discloses for the first time that the Russians previewed to Papadopoulos that they could help with disseminating these stolen emails.” Rep. Schiff added, “When Donald Trump openly called on the Russians to hack Hillary Clinton’s emails, they’d be richly rewarded if they released these to the press, his campaign had already been put on notice that the Russians were prepared to do just that and disseminate these stolen emails.” (The full transcript and video clip is below.)

This new revelation is legally important and, if true, could have exposed Papadopoulos and potentially other campaign officials to significant criminal liability. I spoke with several leading experts in campaign finance law and former federal prosecutors to gather their views.

Rep. Schiff’s statement adds clarity to two stray statements in the memo itself. The memo states, “Russian agents previewed their hack and dissemination of stolen emails.” The memo also refers to this part of the record in stating, “We would later learn in Papadopoulos’s plea that that[sic] the information the Russians could assist by anonymously releasing were thousands of Hillary Clinton emails.”

 

[Surfdog]

Suddenly....... EMAILS MATTER.

Didn't seem to back in 2016.

 

[StuAzole]

Suddenly....... EMAILS MATTER.

Didn't seem to back in 2016.

HILLARY! URANIUM! BEEEENGHAZI!

 

[sizzld1]

Suddenly....... EMAILS MATTER.

Didn't seem to back in 2016.

HILLARY! URANIUM! BEEEENGHAZI!

It’s okay. SurfDog is nervous and he’s taking his nerves out by showing himself to be a moron. It’s a regular occurrence these days.

 

[Autoprax]

Suddenly....... EMAILS MATTER.

Didn't seem to back in 2016.

Your conservative tone deafness is showing for identifying valid comparisons.

Humans have trouble detecting small differences.

 

[sussle]

when it comes to Russia, Trump projects nothing but weakness. which is why Putin can confidently come out with stuff like this:

Russian President Vladimir Putin boasted Thursday that Russia has developed a new generation of nuclear weapons capable of bypassing any missile defense system — a claim that drew a rebuke from the White House and raised the specter of a rekindled Cold War-style arms rivalry.
Some analysts said the bellicose tone of Putin's state of the nation speech appeared mainly meant to bolster a tough image in advance of this month's presidential election, in which his victory is a foregone conclusion. Others questioned whether the new Russian weapon, if it exists, would represent a genuine threat to American security.
Putin's rhetoric, replete with warnings that the Kremlin would respond accordingly to any nuclear attack on Russia or its allies, marked some of the most aggressive language he has deployed in the 13 months that President Trump has been in office.
"No one was listening," the Russian leader declared. "Now you will listen."

 

[Ifallalot]

when it comes to Russia, Trump projects nothing but weakness. which is why Putin can confidently come out with stuff like this:

Russian President Vladimir Putin boasted Thursday that Russia has developed a new generation of nuclear weapons capable of bypassing any missile defense system — a claim that drew a rebuke from the White House and raised the specter of a rekindled Cold War-style arms rivalry.
Some analysts said the bellicose tone of Putin's state of the nation speech appeared mainly meant to bolster a tough image in advance of this month's presidential election, in which his victory is a foregone conclusion. Others questioned whether the new Russian weapon, if it exists, would represent a genuine threat to American security.
Putin's rhetoric, replete with warnings that the Kremlin would respond accordingly to any nuclear attack on Russia or its allies, marked some of the most aggressive language he has deployed in the 13 months that President Trump has been in office.
"No one was listening," the Russian leader declared. "Now you will listen."

Isn't this what you guys want? After all, there were Russian trolls online that you think caused the preferred candidate to lose. Therefore, we must start up the Cold War again

 

[Billy Ocean]

Russians are way smarter than us

These track suit wearing creeps live in a post apocalyptic shithole

Yet they have half our country chasing their tails

It’s impressive

 

[Ifallalot]

Russians are way smarter than us

These track suit wearing creeps live in a post apocalyptic shithole

Yet they have half our country chasing their tails

It’s impressive

And its far weaker than it ever was in the Cold War yet the boogeyman is back.

 

[Billy Ocean]

Russians are way smarter than us

These track suit wearing creeps live in a post apocalyptic shithole

Yet they have half our country chasing their tails

It’s impressive

And its far weaker than it ever was in the Cold War yet the boogeyman is back.

They’re playing their hand very well

We on the other hand are under playing ours

 

[Autoprax]

when it comes to Russia, Trump projects nothing but weakness. which is why Putin can confidently come out with stuff like this:

Russian President Vladimir Putin boasted Thursday that Russia has developed a new generation of nuclear weapons capable of bypassing any missile defense system — a claim that drew a rebuke from the White House and raised the specter of a rekindled Cold War-style arms rivalry.
Some analysts said the bellicose tone of Putin's state of the nation speech appeared mainly meant to bolster a tough image in advance of this month's presidential election, in which his victory is a foregone conclusion. Others questioned whether the new Russian weapon, if it exists, would represent a genuine threat to American security.
Putin's rhetoric, replete with warnings that the Kremlin would respond accordingly to any nuclear attack on Russia or its allies, marked some of the most aggressive language he has deployed in the 13 months that President Trump has been in office.
"No one was listening," the Russian leader declared. "Now you will listen."

Isn't this what you guys want? After all, there were Russian trolls online that you think caused the preferred candidate to lose. Therefore, we must start up the Cold War again

Why you always jumping to the wrong conclusion?

Since/therefore . . . NOT!

 

[Ifallalot]

when it comes to Russia, Trump projects nothing but weakness. which is why Putin can confidently come out with stuff like this:

Russian President Vladimir Putin boasted Thursday that Russia has developed a new generation of nuclear weapons capable of bypassing any missile defense system — a claim that drew a rebuke from the White House and raised the specter of a rekindled Cold War-style arms rivalry.
Some analysts said the bellicose tone of Putin's state of the nation speech appeared mainly meant to bolster a tough image in advance of this month's presidential election, in which his victory is a foregone conclusion. Others questioned whether the new Russian weapon, if it exists, would represent a genuine threat to American security.
Putin's rhetoric, replete with warnings that the Kremlin would respond accordingly to any nuclear attack on Russia or its allies, marked some of the most aggressive language he has deployed in the 13 months that President Trump has been in office.
"No one was listening," the Russian leader declared. "Now you will listen."

Isn't this what you guys want? After all, there were Russian trolls online that you think caused the preferred candidate to lose. Therefore, we must start up the Cold War again

Why you always jumping to the wrong conclusion?

Since/therefore . . . NOT!

That's because you can't see the conclusion in front of your own eyes.

Projecting strength means nothing if you're not willing to back it up. Tracksuited Slavs from post-apocalyptic shitholes are especially hard to bluff

 

[FecalFace]

How the fvck do you equate admitting Russian meddling and doing something about it with Cold War?

 

[afoaf]

are we now at the point where we acknowledge their actions, but don't
want to address them because Cold War?