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Eric Trumby refusing to comply with NYAG subpoena....
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If Trump staying in office is the only thing keeping him and his family out of jail, wouldn't voting for him be aiding and abetting?
Maybe we do need a police presence at the polls.
Probably not.
Depends on the political affiliation of the AG, probably.
Lot's of sh|t is politically motivated.
If a crime has been committed, does it matter what the motivation is?
I'll take the compliment. There's a part of my brain that works best when I'm being really snarky and sarcastic. Otherwise I'm mostly a dummy.
I'm very impressed. You used the same logical fallacies but threw in a few new ones:
- Argument from Consequences: "It simply CAN'T be true that the NYAG is justified in subpoenaing Eric because then all the other subpoenas and indictments might also be valid, thus destroying my narrative!"
I already covered Argument from Ignorance but you coupled it with Begging the Question (circular argument) and put a new twist on it: "You can't disprove that the subpoenas are political motivated therefore they ARE, in fact, politically motivated". "I have witness other politically motivated activities by attorneys general, therefore all attorneys general behave in such a way".
You're asking me to answer a question to which neither of us currently have the answer.
Either or Reasoning/False dilemma/False Dichotomy: "The NYAG a democrat and is going after a republican and therefore all democratic law enforcement officials will unfairly target republicans", "A democratic NYAG would never go after the family of a democratic president".
You offered only two scenarios here when there are many other options or possibilities.
Argument from Motives coupled with Circular Reasoning: "I believe all of the motives of my political opponents to be corrupt therefore the NYAG's motives are corrupt and politically motivated"
Blind Loyalty coupled with Blood is Thicker Than Water. I'm particularly impressed by this one. "Trumby said it's politically motivated, therefore it's politically motivated. Since he's on my side, I believe him".
Slippery Slope: "Once you start prosecuting members of the Trumby family.....where does it end!?"
Argumentum ad martyrdom: "This subpoena is just another political witch-hunt!! We are victims and we are being persecuted!!"
I appreciate your efforts-
I'm very impressed. You used the same logical fallacies but threw in a few new ones:
- Argument from Consequences: "It simply CAN'T be true that the NYAG is justified in subpoenaing Eric because then all the other subpoenas and indictments might also be valid, thus destroying my narrative!"
I already covered Argument from Ignorance but you coupled it with Begging the Question (circular argument) and put a new twist on it: "You can't disprove that the subpoenas are political motivated therefore they ARE, in fact, politically motivated". "I have witness other politically motivated activities by attorneys general, therefore all attorneys general behave in such a way".
You're asking me to answer a question to which neither of us currently have the answer.
Either or Reasoning/False dilemma/False Dichotomy: "The NYAG a democrat and is going after a republican and therefore all democratic law enforcement officials will unfairly target republicans", "A democratic NYAG would never go after the family of a democratic president".
You offered only two scenarios here when there are many other options or possibilities.
Argument from Motives coupled with Circular Reasoning: "I believe all of the motives of my political opponents to be corrupt therefore the NYAG's motives are corrupt and politically motivated"
Blind Loyalty coupled with Blood is Thicker Than Water. I'm particularly impressed by this one. "Trumby said it's politically motivated, therefore it's politically motivated. Since he's on my side, I believe him".
Slippery Slope: "Once you start prosecuting members of the Trumby family.....where does it end!?"
Argumentum ad martyrdom: "This subpoena is just another political witch-hunt!! We are victims and we are being persecuted!!"
can you do that with all of his posts?
maybe possibly you could teach him some critical thinking skills and he can start questioning his own ingrained way of thinking
if you promise to, I might even take him off ignore
I think I'd leave him on ignore. Hal's reply post will still show
At this point gromsdad is just clawing for survival and attention.
pathetic really.
pathetic really.
there was a forum I used to be on that had a weekly vote to ban a user until the next vote
I wish we had that on this forum
I wish we had that on this forum
I hereby make my solemn pledge to not directly respond to or engage him but rather to pick apart his logic.
Be prepared for his most unhinged meltdowns to date.
If I'm employing faulty logic in my analyses, I hope @Autoprax will peer review me.
False Consensus Effect:
"You know it, I know it.....everybody knows it......therefore it must be true". Also another one of DumDad's go-to tactics.
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Beware the backfire effect
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Cognitive dissonance don't feel no good.
bobble was a better fallacy monger than I.
The Backfire Effect
The Misconception: When your beliefs are challenged with facts, you alter your opinions and incorporate the new information into your thinking. The Truth: When your deepest convictions are challeng…
youarenotsosmart.com
Cognitive dissonance don't feel no good.
bobble was a better fallacy monger than I.
Beware the backfire effect
The Backfire Effect
The Misconception: When your beliefs are challenged with facts, you alter your opinions and incorporate the new information into your thinking. The Truth: When your deepest convictions are challeng…
Cognitive dissonance don't feel no good.
bobble was a better fallacy monger than I.
I need to learn all about the effects. There's so many interesting effects. And I need to read up on heuristics.
I always wonder what makes people cling more tightly to their beliefs when presented with facts and evidence to the contrary. Is it a form of narcissism? Is it a feeling of losing control of their worldview?
Human thinking is fascinating.
It's like Survivor.
You should get a monthly time out.
Then you come back and try to behave.
I know, it's hard.
Avoiding cognitive dissonance.
Nobody likes to feel stupid.
I don't.
Though sometimes I have no choice.
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it is a truly compelling thing to watch someone completely lash out when you
have them dead to rights on their idiocy
BUHHHHHH HUNTER BYE-DON!!
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Judge denies Eric Trump's request to delay deposition until after election
Eric Trump offered to be deposed after Election Day, but a judge ruled he must appear by Oct. 7.
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