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Effects of Family Structure on Crime
- Thread starter Mike_Jones
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My wife's dad was a fisherman - gone much of the time. That didn't mean he stopped being part of the household or not-the-role-model. In fact, making those sacrifices in order to support the family unit is usually considered a virtue, far moreso than running off to Bali to bang island girls.
As far as raising kids to be functional adults goes I think that people doing what they have to do > people doing what they want to do. Obviously best if a parent can do both but sometimes they need to prioritize.
As far as raising kids to be functional adults goes I think that people doing what they have to do > people doing what they want to do. Obviously best if a parent can do both but sometimes they need to prioritize.
I know a guy who is very English upper crusty.
At age 6 he was sent off to boarding school. Saw his parents on Holidays occasionally. From there he went to college. Then to work. Pretty much his parents were done with him at age 6. He told me everyone he knew was raised that way. He wanted to raise his kids that way but his American wife was having none of it. But yeah, keep them alive until age 6 and then send them off for the hired help to raise. Pip pip, stiff upper lip.
At age 6 he was sent off to boarding school. Saw his parents on Holidays occasionally. From there he went to college. Then to work. Pretty much his parents were done with him at age 6. He told me everyone he knew was raised that way. He wanted to raise his kids that way but his American wife was having none of it. But yeah, keep them alive until age 6 and then send them off for the hired help to raise. Pip pip, stiff upper lip.
Maybe family structure in America is changing? The number of married adults is around 50%. In the 60s that number was around 72%.
The changes that are occurring are the point. At issue is whether these changes are for the better or the worse.
Some people think that the benefits of allowing 25% of the parents to split to Bali (or to the next town down the road) to bang randos is totally worth the costs to their kids of being raised by the other parent who's working without a net. Other people take exception to the idea that we should be referring to this as progress.
I'm not talking about them, I'm talking about Drainer.
He's the bed pan changer, surely nobody would trust him with a health of a patient.
You've been telling us for years that you never troll.
So which is it, are you a liar or a troll?
It doesn't really matter because you're both.
That thread was not a joke.
You didn't post it under your real handle for a reason. Your Caca handle is a joke.
Traditional family man. ROFLMAO
Even though crime has gone down dramatically, I suspect the perps are still disproportionately products of broken homes.
Also worthy to note: Violent crime peaked in the early '90s. Right around that time there was a spate of "get tough on crime" laws passed around the country. Crime began dropping dramatically as perps started doing serious time.
Current "criminal justice reform" movements center around not throwing convicted felons in jail, and letting many of the ones currently in jail, out. Not a politically winning idea in the entire history of politics.
It's not up to you to "allow" what people do with their lives.
I thought you are scared of the government overreach and hated authoritarians?
Let us remember, the original claim is that "leftist policies" caused this and were a motivating factor for single mothers.
Which is total rubish.
Society is changing. Sry.
Is there a study of children who grew up in "traditional families" where parents hated each other but stayed together "for the sanctity of marriage" like ifail and Gdiddy did?
I bet there are a lot of fvcked up kids coming out of those marriages.
I never said it was up to me or that I wanted gov't to force people to live a certain way - I just want gov't to stop actively and aggressively enabling the really bad choices on the no-strings-attached basis.
The unhappy marriage situation you constantly accuse me of is hilarious. How many couples have you even met who not only have the long history together but who also work together? I'm literally within arm's reach of my wife most of the day during the week - how would that even be possible over so many years if we disliked each other in any way?
As for children growing up in 2-parent households or with at least 2 active parents that's not nothing. All my sons are in LTRs with good women. Those women were all raised in 2-parent households, too. These guys are choosing their partners based on their own priorities and then putting in the effort to make it work. No accidents or coincidences involved.
My middle son has been with his SO (they're not married so I guess that's not traditional) for 16 years. Just that relationship right there has already gone on longer than your longest adult relationship. That indicates to me that he's obviously been more successful at adult relationships than you. He surfs better than you, too.
Their daughter is 14 and in her first year in HS; she just got invited to her first Homecoming. Nobody on either side of her extended family has gone through a divorce in her lifetime so she's never seen an example of single parenting up close. The chances of her approaching her serious relationships with the expectation they'll be contentious and end up with her being the single parent are about as low as it gets.
She's genuinely "privileged" alright, and that advantage has zero to do with inherited wealth or unearned benefits being passed down from 150 years ago. She might fck up because that's always possible, but if she does it will be by her own hand and not because she didn't know any better. I fully expect her to assume personal responsibility for every choice she makes. I expect that of everybody.
The unhappy marriage situation you constantly accuse me of is hilarious. How many couples have you even met who not only have the long history together but who also work together? I'm literally within arm's reach of my wife most of the day during the week - how would that even be possible over so many years if we disliked each other in any way?
As for children growing up in 2-parent households or with at least 2 active parents that's not nothing. All my sons are in LTRs with good women. Those women were all raised in 2-parent households, too. These guys are choosing their partners based on their own priorities and then putting in the effort to make it work. No accidents or coincidences involved.
My middle son has been with his SO (they're not married so I guess that's not traditional) for 16 years. Just that relationship right there has already gone on longer than your longest adult relationship. That indicates to me that he's obviously been more successful at adult relationships than you. He surfs better than you, too.
Their daughter is 14 and in her first year in HS; she just got invited to her first Homecoming. Nobody on either side of her extended family has gone through a divorce in her lifetime so she's never seen an example of single parenting up close. The chances of her approaching her serious relationships with the expectation they'll be contentious and end up with her being the single parent are about as low as it gets.
She's genuinely "privileged" alright, and that advantage has zero to do with inherited wealth or unearned benefits being passed down from 150 years ago. She might fck up because that's always possible, but if she does it will be by her own hand and not because she didn't know any better. I fully expect her to assume personal responsibility for every choice she makes. I expect that of everybody.
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