Drug testing for food stamps

Ifallalot

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sizzld1 said:
StuAzole said:
Has anyone answered the question "what is the policy trying to promote?"

Is it to punish poor people with addiction issues?

Is it to stop drug use?

Is it something else?
Virtue signaling. Meanwhile the people proposing it probably have a three martini a day habit and a pill cabinet that looks like CVS, with their kids struggling to kick an oxy addiction, and a quarter of their constituents on meth. Good times.
It is virtue signaling for sure. A sad concession to a lost battle. The allure of "free stuff" is simply too strong
 

sizzld1

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I agree. Both sides are guilty when it comes to their stance on social programs.
 

StuAzole

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ifallalot said:
sizzld1 said:
StuAzole said:
Has anyone answered the question "what is the policy trying to promote?"

Is it to punish poor people with addiction issues?

Is it to stop drug use?

Is it something else?
Virtue signaling. Meanwhile the people proposing it probably have a three martini a day habit and a pill cabinet that looks like CVS, with their kids struggling to kick an oxy addiction, and a quarter of their constituents on meth. Good times.
It is virtue signaling for sure. A sad concession to a lost battle. The allure of "free stuff" is simply too strong
How is this subsidy different than the tax deduction subsidy?
 

Autoprax

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The "you just want free stuff" trope is such a simple minded shortcut to not understanding what is going on.


But it probably save cognitive energy, which is good.
 

Billy Ocean

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Autoprax said:
Norm' said:
It's all fine until the kids of the recipients are going hungry.
Your liberal tears taste like that good french champagne with the orange label.
The widow ?

I always imagine her as Mrs Havesham but French and drunk

That would probably make a good Netflix series
 

grapedrink

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StuAzole said:
ifallalot said:
sizzld1 said:
StuAzole said:
Has anyone answered the question "what is the policy trying to promote?"

Is it to punish poor people with addiction issues?

Is it to stop drug use?

Is it something else?
Virtue signaling. Meanwhile the people proposing it probably have a three martini a day habit and a pill cabinet that looks like CVS, with their kids struggling to kick an oxy addiction, and a quarter of their constituents on meth. Good times.
It is virtue signaling for sure. A sad concession to a lost battle. The allure of "free stuff" is simply too strong
How is this subsidy different than the tax deduction subsidy?
Think of all the stadiums we could subsidize for billionaire sports team owners if it weren’t for those pesky food stamps :computer:
 

Wheelhouse

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Norm' said:
It's all fine until the kids of the recipients are going hungry.
If you cant afford to have kids then why have them?
Maybe birth control counseling should come standard with food stamps and welfare programs.

There's a progressive model of benefits paid thats why. more kids more money baby!
 

StuAzole

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Wheelhouse said:
Norm' said:
It's all fine until the kids of the recipients are going hungry.
If you cant afford to have kids then why have them?
Maybe birth control counseling should come standard with food stamps and welfare programs.

There's a progressive model of benefits paid thats why. more kids more money baby!
It's also a progressive position that birth control should be available to everyone and that people who get pregnant who don't want kids can get abortions, but for some reason conservatives are against that.

Weird.

 

StuAzole

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JEwing said:
Drugs or food. Not drugs and food.
Why?

And does that mean the policy is to end drug use?

Nobody has been able to tell me what this position is aiming to accomplish.

What if we went with "drugs or tax deductions" not "drugs and tax deductions"?
 

Autoprax

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StuAzole said:
JEwing said:
Drugs or food. Not drugs and food.
Why?

And does that mean the policy is to end drug use?

Nobody has been able to tell me what this position is aiming to accomplish.

What if we went with "drugs or tax deductions" not "drugs and tax deductions"?
Dumb people do badly with counter intuitiveness.

It too hard to figure out.

Give me rock.

I will hit them!
 

Kento

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There's a simple solution. With the absolute glut of legal weed out there (never thought I'd see $15/8ths of chronic), nothing wrong with some subsidized Blunt Stamps to be thrown into the mix.
 

grapedrink

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Wheelhouse said:
Norm' said:
It's all fine until the kids of the recipients are going hungry.
If you cant afford to have kids then why have them?
Yeah, what were those dumb kids thinking when they picked parents too poor to feed them :confused2:
Better to starve them as punishment :ban:
 

Wheelhouse

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grapedrink said:
Wheelhouse said:
Norm' said:
It's all fine until the kids of the recipients are going hungry.
If you cant afford to have kids then why have them?
Yeah, what were those dumb kids thinking when they picked parents too poor to feed them :confused2:
Better to starve them as punishment :ban:
no not at all. I feel sorry for the kids.
I just think the welfare cycle needs to be addressed

Kids are damn expensive
 

grapedrink

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no not at all. I feel sorry for the kids.
I just think the welfare cycle needs to be addressed

Kids are damn expensive
Reforming the welfare system is a band-aid on a broken leg. What needs to be addressed is why certain communities are so impoverished, and why its so difficult for for people to escape said poverty.

Plus, the cost of food stamps is pennies in comparison to the social cost of not having some sort of food assistance. Most of that money gets cycled back into the economy anyways.

Makes for a cool poltical football though :shaka:
 

potato-nator

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Wheelhouse said:
i was working at that store when they switched from the paper voucher food stamps to the card.
the major reason was because people were using the stamps as currency to buy other things... like crack
in AC theres always a guy (try roundabout Kentucky and Atlantic Av.'es) who will convert
food stamps to cash.