The HS standards have been lowered and the GPAs have been raised.
That is why it's so competitive.
That's not knocking your kids (or anyone else's for that matter).
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Dang, my kid didn’t get into any public CA University with a 4.2 GPA that was applied to.
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That is why it's so competitive.
That's not knocking your kids (or anyone else's for that matter).
That's weird I feel like literally everyone I know has a reusable bottle. Must be an Oregon thing.
My Hydroflask water bottle is at least 15 years old.
I disagree.
I don't think the standards are lower at all. My daughter took AP Chem, Bio and Computer Science. I couldn't help her with any of it. Couldn't help her much with anything after freshman year. Kids today also do hours of homework every day. I slided through high school with good grades in a high achieving school district with minimal effort. I remember doing my homework during class so I wouldn't have to so it at home. I don't think there's any way a kid coild do that now.
I think there is just societally a much greater expectation that you go to college, so competition is much more fierce. At my middle school we were always pushing the virtues of a college education- college week, every floor of every building would choose a college "mascot." Once, while pontificating about college, I got reality checked by one of my students who asked, "What are you saying about people who don't go to college?" The vast majority of parents in my school's population did not go to college. They work construction and service industry jobs. I had to pivot and extol the virtues of "hard work"...."starting NOW."
My experience as a high school teacher is this: The top quartile of students are getting an education that is miles better and more rigorous than what similar students got 30 - 40 years ago. They are doing robotics and computer science and medical biology and graphic design and all kinds of things that just didn't exist then. Plus they're loading up on AP and dual enrollment classes and the instructors are doing a good job and most of the kids are working hard and learning. I look back on what we did and what was expected of college track kids in the '70s and think OMG, our educations sucked compared to what these kids get!
Not at the 2 high schools that I taught at for 12 years.
Much more rigorous than my high school I attended.
I don't think these kids are smarter than my cohort is, but they work way harder. I was/am a lazy piece of shvt though.
Just like everything, if you take care of it it won’t get lost . . . . Usually. Probably paid for it self many times over and I hate drinking warm water that’s been sitting in my car and having trash accumulated. I also drive a lot so that could be how I keep track of them.
Kinda yeah. I don’t remember anyone being expected to volunteer. We were already saddled with homework from several classes and sports. Now you are expected to work for free on top of that?
That could be a symptom of grade inflation. when everyone Is over a 4.0 you have to do all kinds of extra stuff to stand out. I went to a high school full of high achievers and only a small percentage were 3.9 or above.
15 years?
I don't even have a set of car keys more than 5 years old.
I lose/leave something behind almost weekly.
I guess this is why I score very low in conscientiousness on the Big 5 test.
I can only speak from my experience at 3 different unis over the past 20 years.
Many of my fellow scholars always seemed woefully undereducated/unprepared for college in terms of knowledge.
A lot of college professors are now saying the same thing - the kids are not prepared for college level coursework and need remediation.
I think perhaps the erBB lends itself to a small subset of the population - upper middle/upper class people and their kids from geographic areas or genes oriented towards the sciences or slightly higher than average IQ (believe it or not!
).At the same time my niece is one of those high-achieving 24/7 studiers but when I see some of the stuff she's working on it seems horribly average... I'm like "Why is this causing you to work so hard?"
as the recipient of many UC STEM interns over the last 15yrs I can attest - they are in fact getting dumber at the most basic things.
they may take more classes and know how to do more things at their level of education and use iPads instead of notepads, but they fail at the simplest tasks if not explicitly instructed.
it’s an issue of micro focus instead of macro. Save the micro for grad school. lets just make sure they understand how to apply a basic scientific method when they finish high school, thx.
they may take more classes and know how to do more things at their level of education and use iPads instead of notepads, but they fail at the simplest tasks if not explicitly instructed.
it’s an issue of micro focus instead of macro. Save the micro for grad school. lets just make sure they understand how to apply a basic scientific method when they finish high school, thx.
Yeah, a job running a cash register.
They'll do math AND build real world skills.
Kids start prepping for college in freakin middle school...It's different now
It amounts to a lot of makework and resume-padding striverdom while academics continues to decline. We measure this in NAEP.
Why we see so many business majors that can't even write an email, let alone think critically.
I never knew that a GPA could be higher than 4.0. When did GPAs go over a perfect 4.0?
CSULA was very affordable way back when I went there, just a few hundred dollars per quarter.
IMO at that age learning the power of math beats being the best at it. Internship/volunteer at a STEM career track. Unfortunately it’s a who you know game at that age but it will give them an immense jump on their peers.
learnint the rules of math sucks. But when you take that physics kinematics class and the projectile motion problem clicks and you suddenly know how high to chuck the egg off the roof to hit the car below traveling at 35mph down Garnett Ave, you realize the power of math and predicting the future and suddenly calculus isn’t so bad after all.
I always felt the top third of students are pretty much self (and parentally) motivated and will achieve under (almost) any circumstances. The bottom third are either slow or knuckleheads and would be better served with some kind of vocational education. It's the middle third that the educator is trying to stimulate and motivate.
I have a team of entry level workers assigned to me. They're all very smart and great people. But they lack basic initiative. If I give them a task they ask me a thousand questions about how to do it rather than just attempting to figure it out on their own. It drives me insane.