CNN's Chris Cuomo comes out as transgender...

Ifallalot

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You keep repeating the same bullshit but you're not answering.

Who's forcing speech on you?

Who's criminalizing speech?

What are you even on about?

You can say whatever you want and you're saying it every day. How come you're not in prison?

You are clearly upset that there are consequences for your anti-social behavior, not that somebody is surpressing your speech, which is bullshit.

You want to dehumanize trans people and you want nobody to call you a bigoted asshole.

That's your dream.
And you're doing it again.
 

casa_mugrienta

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For speech?

Give us some facts. Thanks
Become an employee of any major corporation, govmt agency, or non-profit in the US and find out.

It's a big fvcking deal.

You're self employed so for the most part you can do whatever the fvck you want. That's not the way it works for most people.

Last month I received mandatory education on pronoun usage. Including the invented pronouns like zir. What's funny right now is corpos are scrambling to throw this stuff together as quick as possible and adjust records presentation due to fear of lawsuits... but making major errors in doing so that will simply open them up to more lawsuits.

But yeah, ONLY ON REDDIT!
 
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FecalFace

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Become an employee of any major corporation, govmt agency, or non-profit in the US and find out.

It's a big fvcking deal.

Last month I received mandatory education on pronoun usage. Including the invented pronouns like zir.

What's funny right now is corpos are scrambling to throw this stuff together as quick as possible and adjust records presentation due to fear of lawsuits... but making major errors in doing so that will simply open them up to more lawsuits.
How's that forcing or criminalizing speech?

Private companies have the right to make their own internal rules of conduct. That's also freedom of speech.

It's not like they are firing people for being gay.

That, you have no problem with.

This again boils down to the fact that your problem is that there are consequences for your speech.

Which existed as long as language and society existed.
 
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casa_mugrienta

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How's that forcing or criminalizing speech?
Now you're playing dumb.

Or you really are dumb.

This is why you're worthless to engage with.

Acting a fool as a debate tactic.

Private companies have the right to adhere to their values.
It's not about their values.

At all.

It's about threat of lawsuit.

I'm done engaging you.

Feel free not to reply.

Everyone here knows I'm right anyway.

You lose.
 
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FecalFace

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Now you're playing dumb.

Or you really are dumb.

This is why you're worthless to engage with.

Acting a fool as a debate tactic.



It's not about their values.

At all.

It's about threat of lawsuit.

I'm done engaging you.

Feel free not to reply.

Everyone here knows I'm right anyway.

You lose.
Lawsuit for what? Speech?

You got ZERO facts to support your blabbering about forced and criminalized speech.
 

Surfdog

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If it's city ordinance or a code violation, what is the penalty for breaking it?
I guess you overlooked this city leading the charge on becoming gender ID police.

Again, if it's city ordinance or code violation, they must have a penalty for breaking it?

Otherwise, why make it law?
 
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FecalFace

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I guess you overlooked this city leading the charge on becoming gender ID police.

Again, if it's city ordinance or code violation, they must have a penalty for breaking it?

Otherwise, why make it law?
It's about official government language, doesn't apply to anybody else.

They are not stopping anybody else but govt officials from being disrespectful to people.

You are still free to do it.
 

Kento

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The funny thing about the "manhole" naming issue is that the feminists in charge didn't really think that through considering a large percentage of them contain sewer access points.

Women really want to take co-ownership of that?

Then again, I have a feeling the more strident feminists don't really practice the greatest hygiene down there, douching with pachouli and all that. Or whatever is they do. Or don't do.
 

Surfdog

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It's about official government language, doesn't apply to anybody else.

They are not stopping anybody else but govt officials from being disrespectful to people.

You are still free to do it.
So I guess the city isn't REALLY trying to set a example or standard for citizens to follow. Got it.
 

FecalFace

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So I guess the city isn't REALLY trying to set a example or standard for citizens to follow. Got it.
YOU ARE NOT GOING TO JAIL FOR IT

"Setting an example" and "criminalizing speech" is not the same thing dumdum.
One is a suggestion and the other one is a law.

There's no forced speech.

There's no criminalized speech.

You are full of sh!t.

You don't have to follow their example.

You can be that old uncle who still uses the N word and everybody's whispering like It's okay he's from a different era when that was normal while waiting for your ilk to die off.
 
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Ifallalot

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Now you're playing dumb.

Or you really are dumb.

This is why you're worthless to engage with.

Acting a fool as a debate tactic.



It's not about their values.

At all.

It's about threat of lawsuit.

I'm done engaging you.

Feel free not to reply.

Everyone here knows I'm right anyway.

You lose.
It's easy to attempt to "win" an argument when the parameters are always moving