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Whiny and effeminate is a description of the reporters voices. If you actually listened to the full press conference, it was pretty clear.

You can pretend this stuff doesn't matter, but it does. Just like how Hillary came across as brittle whereas if she was a man, her demeanor wouldn't be nearly as big of a liability. That's reality.

Juxtapose a whiny effeminate male reporter asking the president elect a whiny sounding question against Trump responding brusquely in his non-posh accent. The content of what is said is like 10 percent of what people hear.

What they really hear is the tenor of the voice, the body language, etc.

Trump projects masculinity and power, especially compared to all of these politically correct whiners.

People react to this sh-t. It is dominant male monkey instinctive. Trumps popularity is rising because of it. No one cares about policy. It's all lizard brain emotion.
 

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The more the press and protesters come at trump, the more they provide him a platform to smack them down and look gangsta. How can this be anything less than obvious by now?

This guy is a master of the one liner put down. Why would want to provoke this if you are trying to win a rhetorical battle?
 

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BillyOcean said:
Trump projects masculinity and power, especially compared to all of these politically correct whiners.
:roflmao:

yeah he's really masculine up there with his gay jazz hand movements :rolleyes: while rambling incoherently not even addressing the question. he didn't say more than at either his rallies or the debates. which was nothing much of substance.
 

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BillyOcean said:
Trump projects masculinity and power, especially compared to all of these politically correct whiners.
That shows the subjectivity of perception.

I just hear a BS'er holding on hard to his incongruent frame with energetic bluster.

His type is so typical. When you meet people like this in the life, the best thing you can do is get away from them.

 

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Is trump more masculine appearing or less than obama? Wolf blitzer?

Masculinity is relative.

If he's the most masculine dude in the room, which is easy when you're in a room full of reporters, then he's the dominant monkey. That's all that people see. People are very quick to recognize dominance.
 

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BillyOcean said:
Is trump more masculine appearing or less than obama? Wolf blitzer?

Masculinity is relative.

If he's the most masculine dude in the room, which is easy when you're in a room full of reporters, then he's the dominant monkey. That's all that people see. People are very quick to recognize dominance.
Wolf Blitzer :confused2:

you got to think the people Trump are appointing with more business success like Tillerson got to be saying under their breath "this dude was a chump" in the business world. And if Trump is such a bad ass why did he pussy out already when visiting Mexico previously
 

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If you're a hater, you won't see it. Majority of Americans are not haters. He's the modern Caesar.
 

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I'm certain business titans thought trump was a joke, but they're not laughing now. People though GWB was a dummy too. Sometimes appearing to be a dummy is an asset. The unwashed masses don't like people who are too slick.
 

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Wolf blitzer and similar media types giving trump the not so subtle tut tut. Like Al Gore's wife saying heavy metal is baaaaad. People like the rated R guy. Not cool to say in polite society when it comes to the presidency but average joe and Jane just wants to rock. Trump is like IDGAF and it resonates.

Politics is no different than pro wrestling.
 

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Humans are like 1 percent different from that masturbating monkey.

Aliens wouldn't be able to see a difference.
 

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BillyOcean said:
Whiny and effeminate is a description of the reporters voices. If you actually listened to the full press conference, it was pretty clear.

You can pretend this stuff doesn't matter, but it does. Just like how Hillary came across as brittle whereas if she was a man, her demeanor wouldn't be nearly as big of a liability. That's reality.

Juxtapose a whiny effeminate male reporter asking the president elect a whiny sounding question against Trump responding brusquely in his non-posh accent. The content of what is said is like 10 percent of what people hear.

What they really hear is the tenor of the voice, the body language, etc.

Trump projects masculinity and power, especially compared to all of these politically correct whiners.

People react to this sh-t. It is dominant male monkey instinctive. Trumps popularity is rising because of it. No one cares about policy. It's all lizard brain emotion.
Unfortunately, this is all far too true. It always has been and it always will be.

Except for Trump's popularity, which is the lowest of any PEOTUS in at least 25 years. Trump's favorability rating has sunk to 37%. I think that's because he often comes across as unhinged. He did alright for most of the recent presser, but there were moments where he channeled Captain Queeg too.
 

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Autoprax said:
BillyOcean said:
Trump projects masculinity and power, especially compared to all of these politically correct whiners.
That shows the subjectivity of perception.

I just hear a BS'er holding on hard to his incongruent frame with energetic bluster.

His type is so typical. When you meet people like this in the life, the best thing you can do is get away from them.
It always amazes me that people see a guy who dyes his hair and puts hair spray on it as "masculine".
Flabby, flat footed and vain, spray tan is masculine?
Being thin skinned and vindictive is masculine?
Abusing women is masculine?

What
in the actual
F
U
C
K

BTW, you are replying to another TMZ troll. :toilet:
 

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Again, masculinity is relative. Yes trump is bizarre looking. Yes he has bizarre mannerisms. However, on the question of dominance, who is he being compared to and in what context?

Look at the Repub debates. Is there any question he totally dominated all of those guys? And it was not really about what he actually said. It's his attitude of dominance and their by comparison attitude of fear and calculation. Trump is not afraid to let it all hang out and take risks. This is obvious. People react to it.

In the press conference, he was not worried about appearing to toe some line that some whiny reporter tried to set for him. He shut that guy down and did not GAF. What percentage of people do you think felt bad for that reporter vs thought it was pretty cool that trump shut him down? I'm not saying there isn't a decent percentage who reacted poorly to it, but MOST people saw a dominance test that trump WON.

similarly, compare him to obama. Obama on his way out lecturing about you shouldn't do this and you shouldn't do that. Comes off like someone's grandmother. Trump blasts through it and just does it. Words vs action. Action is dominant, words are weak. It's all relative, but people are constantly making these comparisons subjectively. It is in our DNA to recognize immediately who the dominant male is in any context.
 

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BillyOcean said:
Again, masculinity is relative. Yes trump is bizarre looking. Yes he has bizarre mannerisms. However, on the question of dominance, who is he being compared to and in what context?

Look at the Repub debates. Is there any question he totally dominated all of those guys? And it was not really about what he actually said. It's his attitude of dominance and their by comparison attitude of fear and calculation. Trump is not afraid to let it all hang out and take risks. This is obvious. People react to it.

In the press conference, he was not worried about appearing to toe some line that some whiny reporter tried to set for him. He shut that guy down and did not GAF. What percentage of people do you think felt bad for that reporter vs thought it was pretty cool that trump shut him down? I'm not saying there isn't a decent percentage who reacted poorly to it, but MOST people saw a dominance test that trump WON.

similarly, compare him to obama. Obama on his way out lecturing about you shouldn't do this and you shouldn't do that. Comes off like someone's grandmother. Trump blasts through it and just does it. Words vs action. Action is dominant, words are weak. It's all relative, but people are constantly making these comparisons subjectively. It is in our DNA to recognize immediately who the dominant male is in any context.
If you think it's "pretty cool" that our President Elect is shutting down the press I feel sorry for you. It's one of the primary principles in the constitution. The very first amendment protects against the prohibition of a free press. Shutting out those who's reporting you don't like is doing just that.
 

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BillyOcean said:
Again, masculinity is relative. Yes trump is bizarre looking. Yes he has bizarre mannerisms. However, on the question of dominance, who is he being compared to and in what context?

Look at the Repub debates. Is there any question he totally dominated all of those guys? And it was not really about what he actually said. It's his attitude of dominance and their by comparison attitude of fear and calculation. Trump is not afraid to let it all hang out and take risks. This is obvious. People react to it.

In the press conference, he was not worried about appearing to toe some line that some whiny reporter tried to set for him. He shut that guy down and did not GAF. What percentage of people do you think felt bad for that reporter vs thought it was pretty cool that trump shut him down? I'm not saying there isn't a decent percentage who reacted poorly to it, but MOST people saw a dominance test that trump WON.

similarly, compare him to obama. Obama on his way out lecturing about you shouldn't do this and you shouldn't do that. Comes off like someone's grandmother. Trump blasts through it and just does it. Words vs action. Action is dominant, words are weak. It's all relative, but people are constantly making these comparisons subjectively. It is in our DNA to recognize immediately who the dominant male is in any context.
Just to be clear, Trump's actually done nothing but words to this point, and usually in just 140 characters or less.
 

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StuAzole said:
BillyOcean said:
Again, masculinity is relative. Yes trump is bizarre looking. Yes he has bizarre mannerisms. However, on the question of dominance, who is he being compared to and in what context?

Look at the Repub debates. Is there any question he totally dominated all of those guys? And it was not really about what he actually said. It's his attitude of dominance and their by comparison attitude of fear and calculation. Trump is not afraid to let it all hang out and take risks. This is obvious. People react to it.

In the press conference, he was not worried about appearing to toe some line that some whiny reporter tried to set for him. He shut that guy down and did not GAF. What percentage of people do you think felt bad for that reporter vs thought it was pretty cool that trump shut him down? I'm not saying there isn't a decent percentage who reacted poorly to it, but MOST people saw a dominance test that trump WON.

similarly, compare him to obama. Obama on his way out lecturing about you shouldn't do this and you shouldn't do that. Comes off like someone's grandmother. Trump blasts through it and just does it. Words vs action. Action is dominant, words are weak. It's all relative, but people are constantly making these comparisons subjectively. It is in our DNA to recognize immediately who the dominant male is in any context.
Just to be clear, Trump's actually done nothing but words to this point, and usually in just 140 characters or less.
It's called being a blowhard. Which is even easier to do when you get to hide behind the secret service. He's hardly the tough guy that these people want him to be.
 

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BillyOcean said:
Again, masculinity is relative. Yes trump is bizarre looking. Yes he has bizarre mannerisms. However, on the question of dominance, who is he being compared to and in what context?

Look at the Repub debates. Is there any question he totally dominated all of those guys? And it was not really about what he actually said. It's his attitude of dominance and their by comparison attitude of fear and calculation. Trump is not afraid to let it all hang out and take risks. This is obvious. People react to it.

In the press conference, he was not worried about appearing to toe some line that some whiny reporter tried to set for him. He shut that guy down and did not GAF. What percentage of people do you think felt bad for that reporter vs thought it was pretty cool that trump shut him down? I'm not saying there isn't a decent percentage who reacted poorly to it, but MOST people saw a dominance test that trump WON.

similarly, compare him to obama. Obama on his way out lecturing about you shouldn't do this and you shouldn't do that. Comes off like someone's grandmother. Trump blasts through it and just does it. Words vs action. Action is dominant, words are weak. It's all relative, but people are constantly making these comparisons subjectively. It is in our DNA to recognize immediately who the dominant male is in any context.
You are confusing narcissism, lack of self-awareness and arrogance for masculinity.
 

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[size:14pt]The Spy Who Wrote the Trump-Russia Memos: It Was "Hair-Raising" Stuff
When I broke the story in October, I spoke with him. Here's what he said[/size].

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/01/spy-who-wrote-trump-russia-memos-it-was-hair-raising-stuff
 

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FecalFace said:
BillyOcean said:
Again, masculinity is relative. Yes trump is bizarre looking. Yes he has bizarre mannerisms. However, on the question of dominance, who is he being compared to and in what context?

Look at the Repub debates. Is there any question he totally dominated all of those guys? And it was not really about what he actually said. It's his attitude of dominance and their by comparison attitude of fear and calculation. Trump is not afraid to let it all hang out and take risks. This is obvious. People react to it.

In the press conference, he was not worried about appearing to toe some line that some whiny reporter tried to set for him. He shut that guy down and did not GAF. What percentage of people do you think felt bad for that reporter vs thought it was pretty cool that trump shut him down? I'm not saying there isn't a decent percentage who reacted poorly to it, but MOST people saw a dominance test that trump WON.

similarly, compare him to obama. Obama on his way out lecturing about you shouldn't do this and you shouldn't do that. Comes off like someone's grandmother. Trump blasts through it and just does it. Words vs action. Action is dominant, words are weak. It's all relative, but people are constantly making these comparisons subjectively. It is in our DNA to recognize immediately who the dominant male is in any context.
You are confusing narcissism, lack of self-awareness and arrogance for masculinity.
Trump certainly possesses a very unique brand of uninformed confidence and certainty.
 

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Gnudz said:
Trump certainly possesses a very unique brand of uninformed confidence and certainty.
he's a salesman. a good one has that. he sold 1/2 the American people a POS lie and they bought it.