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Are the feds about to roll tanks on Portlandia?
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So Trumby's a leftist now? I really do wish you would make up your mind.
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If that's what terrorizing protestors looks like, then the pussification of America is nearly complete.
There have been nightly protests in Portland for nearly two months. Some stay peaceful and some don't. You can go through the county Sheriff's twitter account for an overview, he sounds like a fairminded guy in a difficult spot
But the federal building there have been a nexus for the protests and those haven't always stayed peaceful. Trump has gotten sick of the not peaceful part:
"Department of Homeland Security officers were sent to Portland after the president issued an executive order in late June protecting statues from protesters.
Since arriving just before July 4, the officers from Customs and Border Protection’s elite BORTAC unit and the U.S. Marshals Special Operations Group have played an aggressive role protecting the Mark O. Hatfield federal courthouse from vandalism and assisting the Portland Police Bureau in clearing protesters from city streets."
Political Fight Over Violence By Federal Officers In Portland Deepens
Two days after federal law enforcement officers shot an unarmed protester in the head with “less lethal” munitions, causing severe injuries, President Trump lauded officers currently deployed in Portland.
www.opb.org
Agree that having people detained and taken away in unmarked cars is creepy looking. It sounds like the protestors are being treating in accordance with our rights so that is good, but the local law enforcement folks don't sound happy about the way the feds are acting
Federal officers respond to Portland protests with gas, munitions Thursday amid growing attention from Trump administration
The confrontation between federal officers and protesters came hours after interim Department of Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf arrived in Portland to meet with federal law enforcement officials.
www.oregonlive.com
At some point the local law enforcement are going to have to restore order to the streets. It sounds like they have been attempting to be collaborative with protestors which is good, but if public places and federal buildings are getting trashed regularly then at some point the local police should solve the problem, especially if they don't want the feds doing so - as is their right when it comes to federal property.
If people are getting arrested without committing a crime then that's an unlawful arrest.
If people are committing or have committed a crime then arresting them is not unlawful or authoritarian.
I think if people are assaulting federal workers at federal facilities or are vandalizing federal property or impeding the operations of federal agencies or are violating other federal laws then they should probably stop doing that.
Federal courts, federal sentencing, federal incarceration.
If people are committing or have committed a crime then arresting them is not unlawful or authoritarian.
I think if people are assaulting federal workers at federal facilities or are vandalizing federal property or impeding the operations of federal agencies or are violating other federal laws then they should probably stop doing that.
Federal courts, federal sentencing, federal incarceration.
Yes. As the last real Republican, let me say that yes, this Facist dictatorship is exactly what we feared. The loss of civil liberties. This is also why we wanted a well armed militia to insure the welfare of a free people.
No true Republican will support tRump in the Fall.
Yep. They attacked a federal courthouse and tried to hit a federal cop over the head with a hammer as well as rioted for 50 days.
This whole thing is a media campaign in favor of Antifa. We're being nudged to believe Trump has organized a tyrannical military campaign against "peaceful protestors" in Portland when he didn't do anything to the same people in Seattle.
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Most of the Federal bureaucracy runs completely on its own as it wants regardless of who is in power. It's like most late-empire bureaucracies.
Antifa or whatever anarchist groups du jour you want to call them have been causing chaos since George Floyd, and the lib media has largely ignored it. The police have had a tough time containing them. Now, after almost 2 months, the Feds are rolling in to stop them. Shocker!
Also, that video of a couple "Feds" kidgloving that Antifa woman into a minivan? LOLOLOLOL Ok. Not sure what the angle is on staging a fake video like that or who gains what, but seems fake AF
Yes, the rule of law.
I've no problem with arresting rioters, and prosecuting them.
That isn't what these posts are saying.
Instead, they are reporting shooting peaceful protesters in the head. Arresting and holding without charge. The loss of liberty without due process, or the ability to post bail. You remember, that whole Constitution thing
Most of the businesses are "damned if they do, damned if they don't" now. If they stay closed, they go out of business since hte PPP is expiring. If they open, they might get fined. Hey, might that help Newsome make up his $56 billion dollar budget shortfall out of a budget of $200 billion? It might! Looks like an old-fashioned shake-down.Newsom set up “strike teams” to make sure people don’t try to make a living.
You guys are all cool with that right?
Newsom creates ‘strike teams’ to ensure compliance in areas where COVID-19 orders aren’t being enforced
California is creating “strike teams” from 10 state agencies to enforce guidelines designed to slow the spread of the coronavirus, Gov. Gavin Newsom said Wednesday. He said the teams would “go afte…ktla.com
What civil liberties do you see being lost? Are you talking about in Portland or elsewhere?
I'm looking for evidence that these enforcers are actual police, and not federal troupes, active within our own borders. I think the Constitution says something about that.
Is this the long winded rational to ok secret police to arrest and detain people who politically protest?If that's what terrorizing protestors looks like, then the pussification of America is nearly complete.
There have been nightly protests in Portland for nearly two months. Some stay peaceful and some don't. You can go through the county Sheriff's twitter account for an overview, he sounds like a fairminded guy in a difficult spot
But the federal building there have been a nexus for the protests and those haven't always stayed peaceful. Trump has gotten sick of the not peaceful part:
"Department of Homeland Security officers were sent to Portland after the president issued an executive order in late June protecting statues from protesters.
Since arriving just before July 4, the officers from Customs and Border Protection’s elite BORTAC unit and the U.S. Marshals Special Operations Group have played an aggressive role protecting the Mark O. Hatfield federal courthouse from vandalism and assisting the Portland Police Bureau in clearing protesters from city streets."
Political Fight Over Violence By Federal Officers In Portland Deepens
Two days after federal law enforcement officers shot an unarmed protester in the head with “less lethal” munitions, causing severe injuries, President Trump lauded officers currently deployed in Portland.www.opb.org
Agree that having people detained and taken away in unmarked cars is creepy looking. It sounds like the protestors are being treating in accordance with our rights so that is good, but the local law enforcement folks don't sound happy about the way the feds are acting
Federal officers respond to Portland protests with gas, munitions Thursday amid growing attention from Trump administration
The confrontation between federal officers and protesters came hours after interim Department of Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf arrived in Portland to meet with federal law enforcement officials.
At some point the local law enforcement are going to have to restore order to the streets. It sounds like they have been attempting to be collaborative with protestors which is good, but if public places and federal buildings are getting trashed regularly then at some point the local police should solve the problem, especially if they don't want the feds doing so - as is their right when it comes to federal property.
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from my post above:
"Department of Homeland Security officers were sent to Portland after the president issued an executive order in late June protecting statues from protesters.
Since arriving just before July 4, the officers from Customs and Border Protection’s elite BORTAC unit and the U.S. Marshals Special Operations Group have played an aggressive role protecting the Mark O. Hatfield federal courthouse from vandalism and assisting the Portland Police Bureau in clearing protesters from city streets."
I haven't seen any credible reporting that backs up your claims, got any links for any of the bolded parts?
Arresting mass peaceful protesters, excersizing their Constitutional right to petition their government. Arresting looters and vandals is one thing. Assaulting a photographer with a press pass, or shooting someone holding a sign is another.
We have seen the videos. There is no denying.
I've said this all along. But it has to be for just cause, it has to be done according to the constitution, and it has to be done by the book. No sending in your brown-shirts and throwing people into unmarked vehicles.
sh!t, if you think it's really necessary......send in the national guard. Things usually cool down when they show up. And they're identifiable and there's accountability and the ability to identify who's doing what and for what purpose.
It says quite a bit about that. And, if we start deploying troops, or just groups of thugs, to start rounding people up......where does that leave us?
Weren't people all freaked out a few years ago about Obama rolling tanks in Texas?