American concentration camps: 2019 edition.

hal9000

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GDaddy

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They should be free to leave whence they came, right? Send them back to their points of origin. Problem solved. Don't come back unless you stand in line like everyone else.

Deploy the troops. With buses and enough fuel to reach the southern border. We can include a lovely parting gift of 5 MREs per head.
 

casa_mugrienta

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frvcvs said:
casa_mugrienta said:
There's no crisis at the border.

Right?

There is a crisis now.

So there was no crisis a few months ago, but now there's a crisis?

Direct question.

All of you guys were saying there was no crisis a few months ago when CBP was saying there was a crisis.

Please explain that.
 

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casa_mugrienta said:
frvcvs said:
casa_mugrienta said:
There's no crisis at the border.

Right?

There is a crisis now.

So there was no crisis a few months ago, but now there's a crisis?

Direct question.

All of you guys were saying there was no crisis a few months ago when CBP was saying there was a crisis.

Please explain that.

The crisis is that we're separating children from their families and illegally detaining people with no representation in concentration camps.
 

hal9000

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frvcvs said:
casa_mugrienta said:
frvcvs said:
casa_mugrienta said:
There's no crisis at the border.

Right?

There is a crisis now.

So there was no crisis a few months ago, but now there's a crisis?

Direct question.

All of you guys were saying there was no crisis a few months ago when CBP was saying there was a crisis.

Please explain that.

The crisis is that we're separating children from their families and illegally detaining people with no representation in concentration camps.
The cruelty is the entire point.
 

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hal9000 said:
frvcvs said:
casa_mugrienta said:
frvcvs said:
casa_mugrienta said:
There's no crisis at the border.

Right?

There is a crisis now.

So there was no crisis a few months ago, but now there's a crisis?

Direct question.

All of you guys were saying there was no crisis a few months ago when CBP was saying there was a crisis.

Please explain that.

The crisis is that we're separating children from their families and illegally detaining people with no representation in concentration camps.
The cruelty is the entire point.
Yep, anything for the rubes to get a hate boner.
 

Ifallalot

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I guess stretching the meaning of "asylum" isn't working out too well for them

And Mexico offered them the "asylum" yet they just kept right on walking for 1000s of miles.

I'd never put my kids through that. Shitty parents
 

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Duffy said:
You guys are fucking sick in the head for comparing this to what happened to the jews during ww2.

Yeah, but the Nazi didn't start off full on holocaust out of the gate.

They took their time.

A great journey starts with one small step.
 

hal9000

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Duffy said:
You guys are fucking sick in the head for comparing this to what happened to the jews during ww2.


Do you think the camps started as death camps? Sounds like someone needs to read up on their history and on the international definition of concentration camps. I believe the motto is "Never again" and I think pretty soon people will be forced to reckon with the idea that "never again" applies not only to your own people but to other groups as well.

Some jews are starting to agree. You don't sound the alarm when the camps become death camps. You sound the alarm BEFORE they become death camps.

The failure of the right to see that these are concentration camps is a failure in morality and imagination. You should read this piece: https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/the-unimaginable-reality-of-american-concentration-camps?utm_medium=social&utm_social-type=owned&mbid=social_twitter&utm_source=twitter&utm_brand=tny

and this one: https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a27813648/concentration-camps-southern-border-migrant-detention-facilities-trump/

and this one:
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/aoc-was-right-compare-trump-s-border-internment-camps-concentration-ncna1019381

and this one:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/george-takei-i-know-what-concentration-camps-are-i-was-inside-two-of-them-in-america/
 

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ifallalot said:
I guess stretching the meaning of "asylum" isn't working out too well for them

And Mexico offered them the "asylum" yet they just kept right on walking for 1000s of miles.

I'd never put my kids through that. Shitty parents
Zero perspective.
 

hal9000

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You guys are OK with this? Cool. Rot in hell.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/nearly-300-migrant-children-removed-texas-facility-described-appaling-n1021151

Almost 300 migrant children have been removed a border patrol facility in Texas after media reports of lawyers describing “appalling” and potentially dangerous conditions, Department of Homeland Security officials told NBC News.

Lawyers who recently visited two Texas facilities holding migrant children described seeing young children and teenagers not being able to shower for days or even weeks, inadequate food, flu outbreaks and prolonged periods of detention.

The children who were removed were being held at a border station in Clint, Texas. Some were wearing dirty clothes covered in mucus or even urine, said Elora Mukherjee, the director of the Immigrants’ Rights Clinic at Columbia Law School. Teenage mothers wore clothing stained with breast milk. None of the children had access to soap or toothpaste, she said.

“Almost every child I spoke with had not showered or bathed since they crossed the border — some of them more than three weeks ago,” she said. “There is a stench that emanates from some of the children because they haven’t had an opportunity to put on clean clothes and to take a shower.”

The children have been taken to a tent detention camp also in El Paso, Texas, where they will remain under the custody of Border Patrol until they can be placed with the Department of Health and Human Services, the DHS officials said. The Associated Press first reported on the conditions at the facility.

Mukherjee was part of the team of lawyers who visited the facility last week. She said that although the border station has the capacity for slightly more than 100 people, when they arrived Monday morning there were about 350 children there. The group spoke to more than 60.

“I have never seen conditions as appalling as what we witnessed last week,” she said. “The children are hungry, dirty and sick and being detained for very long periods of time.”

“Children who are young themselves are being told by guards they must take care of even younger children,” Mukherjee said, adding that children as young as 7 and 8 were forced to care for 2-year-olds.

She said almost all the children had been separated from the adults they crossed the border with — siblings, aunts or grandparents, or even their parents.

“They don’t know where their loved ones are who they crossed the border with,” she said.

Many also had family members already in the United States waiting to take them in, she said.

Federal law requires unaccompanied or separated migrant children be transferred to HHS custody within 72 hours, but some children at the Clint facility had been in Border Patrol custody for weeks, she said.

Migrant children are increasingly finding themselves stuck on concrete benches or even outside at Border Patrol stations, with HHS close to exceeding its capacity, according to three government officials and documents reviewed by NBC News.
 

hal9000

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It's almost as if some of you never paid attention in history class. You should read these:

https://www.theholocaustexplained.org/the-camps/the-first-camps/

https://www.theholocaustexplained.org/the-camps/types-of-camps/concentration-camps/

https://www.history.com/topics/world-war-ii/auschwitz

https://www.history.com/topics/world-war-ii/dachau

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/04/06/the-system-books-kirsch
 

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ifallalot said:
I guess stretching the meaning of "asylum" isn't working out too well for them

And Mexico offered them the "asylum" yet they just kept right on walking for 1000s of miles.

I'd never put my kids through that. Shitty parents
Never mind shitty parent, you are a shitty human being if you wouldn't want a better life for your children.

Low empath neo-fash POS