My favorite part is when you claim it’s others who only look at one side of an argument, claim to be the mental health experts and that it’s others who are frustrated
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Alaska Airlines pilot who shut off plane engine mid flight blames post-shroom psychosis...
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I'm well aware. I lived up there when it happened. So it sounds like there are BIG PROBLEMS when the "patient" takes more than the recommended dose, but there is no recommended dose in this case b/c is there is no evidence base for prescribing it. Show me some double-blinded RCTs with pre-registered endpoints, follow-up long term safety data, FDA approval and then we can talk safety and efficacy.
What are the alternatives - people licking toads or eating mushrooms then reporting on their experience? Who organizes it? Who referees the data quality? Who disseminates it to doctors?
I'm all for fixing the FDA but the alternatives aren't there either.
im going to assume thats the case or hes just saying it to get a leaner sentence.
Did some research on this mushroom thing,My first question to the doctor was,Have you tried it?
This. IME they can definitely make you get into your head, so you either have to be comfortable there or ready to get a little uncomfortable, and with the right mindset or guidance, can be beneficial. You are kind of forced to go there when you normally wouldn't and when you acknowledge whatever that might be, it may be a positive thing. That has been my experience and also helped me set some goals, mostly when I was younger. I can also see micro dosing being mood-enhancing, you know that fuzzy feeling and permagrin you get before you blast off. A natural alt to Zoloft or other antidepressants, perhaps? The different species do different things, the cubenzas (sp?) can be a bit more heady than asuresants (sp?) which are lighter yet more visual. While I have done my share, it's only fun once or twice a year on a backpacking trip these days, and went maybe a decade before cleaning out the cob webs once again.
Effect of Psilocybin and Ketamine on Brain Neurotransmitters, Glutamate Receptors, DNA and Rat Behavior
Clinical studies provide evidence that ketamine and psilocybin could be used as fast-acting antidepressants, though their mechanisms and toxicity are still not fully understood. To address this issue, we have examined the effect of a single administration ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
I haven't looked at the Ketamine research stuff, but I will say this anecdotally.Effect of Psilocybin and Ketamine on Brain Neurotransmitters, Glutamate Receptors, DNA and Rat Behavior
Clinical studies provide evidence that ketamine and psilocybin could be used as fast-acting antidepressants, though their mechanisms and toxicity are still not fully understood. To address this issue, we have examined the effect of a single administration ...
I have titrated ketamine drips on chronic pain patients for sometimes 72 hours straight.
Many of these patients also have depression.
None of these patients have ever said anything about suddenly feeling like a new person after I've stopped their drip. In fact one talked of suicide. And I know of two patients that had received multiple ketamine infusions for chronic pain over past months that ended up committing suicide not long after.
More than a few times I've titrated to high enough levels where the patient starts to become fearful ("I am not feeling well, this does not feel good, I am feeling really weird and not in a good way,") etc. and we have to back off quick.
I don't know how to what degree they are dosing people for depression, but I have heard it's not enough to put someone into a k-hole (which is not fun by any account I've heard).
Thus I am rather skeptical.
What were some of your take-aways from that article?Effect of Psilocybin and Ketamine on Brain Neurotransmitters, Glutamate Receptors, DNA and Rat Behavior
Clinical studies provide evidence that ketamine and psilocybin could be used as fast-acting antidepressants, though their mechanisms and toxicity are still not fully understood. To address this issue, we have examined the effect of a single administration ...
Airline Industry’s ‘Silent’ Struggle: Pilots and Mental Health
Pilots fear career repercussions for seeking mental health help.
www.wsj.com
To combat in-flight anxiety, all passengers should be given a complimentary gram of shrooms every 2 hours.
We've been over this but I doubt any mental health "help" would help. What they likely need are solutions for their problems. It's like California running ads on the radio for mental health resources now. We know Californians are losing their minds, but we really need the conditions causing us to lose our minds to be ameliorated rather than talking it over with a shrink.Airline Industry’s ‘Silent’ Struggle: Pilots and Mental Health
Pilots fear career repercussions for seeking mental health help.
I did Ritalin and did a bunch of writing on my computer. Then I took some Norcos and drank.
IT was great.
I didn't try to bring down the plane either.
I used to live in an area with plenty of cow pastures.
And in Florida they are legal to possess.
Also people had grow kits.
That's because he didn't have any. He was trolling you.
Plus you would've been too scared.
You were afraid to even meet up for a jam session!
