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Listen: Neil Gorsuch questions why felony obstruction applied on January 6.....
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Look it up and tell us. I'd wager that it's not nearly as sever since — even by your own admission — no officers or secret service were ever in danger; no officers died shortly after the protest; no one actually crossed into the whitehouse; and the elephant in the room... no one was there to overturn the results of an election.
Regurgitating that lie again. At least you didn't frame that guy's unrelated stroke as being bludgeoned to death. 60 officers injured and 11 officers having to be treated at the hospital defending the Whitehouse grounds from being breached sure sounds serious to me.
I didn't frame it that way, cause I'm willing to listen to "the other side" and acknowledge the point (when they're correct). It'd be cool if you did the same.
But 1) it's not a lie. The guy died. And 2) No matter how you spin it... that officer that died was brutally beaten. Whereas the "injuries" that you're referring to... even by the Secret Service Media Relations claimed that no officer was ever in danger. You cannot say that about J6. 3) Once again, police officers had to shoot someone at the J6 protest.
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It was an obvious Fed Op to make the left look bad. I saw people in khakis. Anti Trump protesters were set up by undercover FBI agents.Secret Service Statement on Pennsylvania Avenue Demonstrations
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Washington, D.C. -- On Saturday, May 30, and into early Sunday, May 31, 2020, U.S. Secret Service Uniformed Division Officers made one arrest during the demonstrations near 15th St. NW and Pennsylvania Avenue.
Some demonstrators repeatedly attempted to knock over security barriers, and vandalized six Secret Service vehicles. Between Friday night and Sunday morning, more than 60 Secret Service Uniformed Division Officers and Special Agents sustained multiple injuries from projectiles such as bricks, rocks, bottles, fireworks and other items. Secret Service personnel were also directly physically assaulted as they were kicked, punched, and exposed to bodily fluids. A total of 11 injured employees were transported to a local hospital and treated for non-life threatening injuries.
No individuals crossed the White House Fence and no Secret Service protectees were ever in any danger.
The Secret Service respects the right to assemble, and we ask that individuals do so peacefully for the safety of all.
Secret Service Statement on Pennsylvania Avenue Demonstrations | United States Secret Service
Washington, D.C. -- On Saturday, May 30, and into early Sunday, May 31, 2020, U.S. Secret Service Uniformed Division Officers made one arrest during the demonstrations near 15th St. NW and Pennsylvania Avenue.www.secretservice.gov
- said no one ever because look how silly that sounds.
There is a 0.0 percent chance Antifa/BLM have the tactical savvy to encircle a former Yugoslav like Melania. Unless and until I see her hauling ass with candlesticks and cutlery on the teevees, siege is fake news.
Federal probe: Protest not broken up due to Trump photo op
An internal investigation has determined that the decision to clear racial justice protesters from an area in front of the White House last summer wasn't influenced by then-President Donald Trump’s plans to stage a Bible-toting photo opportunity at that spot.
apnews.com
Wrong. It will.
Not only was prosecutor Jack Smith's appointment invalid, but he is applying the law which his case rests on invalidly.
Then add this: The same statute was used to imprison 300 other Jan. 6 defendants. Those prosecutions also ride on this Supreme Court case.
Politico: The ‘Sleeping Giant’ Case that Could Upend Jack Smith’s Prosecution of Trump
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01/17/2024
There’s been a lot of attention paid to the Supreme Court’s upcoming decision on Donald Trump’s claim of immunity from prosecution for actions taken while president, a judgment that will have big implications for the 2024 presidential campaign and special counsel Jack Smith’s indictment of the former president on charges related to Jan. 6. But there’s a sleeping giant of a case also percolating in the Supreme Court that’s even more likely than the immunity issue to impact Smith’s prosecution of Trump.
The case is Joseph W. Fischer v. United States, which the court agreed to hear in December, and which doesn’t explicitly mention Trump. At issue is whether prosecutors and the Department of Justice have been improperly using a 2002 law originally aimed at curbing financial crimes to prosecute a Jan. 6 defendant named Joseph Fischer. Should the court side with Fischer, it would also call into question the use of the law against other Jan. 6 defendants — including Trump.
Smith’s indictment contains four counts in total. Two of those are for obstruction of an official proceeding and for conspiracy to do so. Those crimes are part of a relatively recent criminal statute governing financial disclosures known as the Sarbanes-Oxley (or “SOX”) Act, which was enacted following the Enron corporate accounting scandal, and which makes it a crime to obstruct an official proceeding of the U.S. government. The Justice Department has so far used it to charge over 300 people involved in the Jan. 6 insurrection; more than 150 have been convicted of the offense following jury trials or pleaded guilty to it.
Many of these defendants, including Fischer, have argued that the “obstruction of an official proceeding” part of the SOX Act was only meant to apply narrowly to financial crimes similar to the ones that produced the law in the first place — and not as broadly as the Justice Department has used it in the Jan. 6 cases.....
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you wanted everyone to face the death penalty. over sentencing?
Do you realize how inaccurate your claim of what I said is? There are a handful who I wanted to face the death penalty. Still do. That doesn't include a grandma who was welcomed in through open doors, took a stroll and peacefully exited the building. What you're doing is being dishonest about what I said and then acting as if your purposeful misquote is a gotcha.
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Funny how the side who always squawk about greed may get decapitated by demanding more than they have coming.
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Funny how the side who always squawk about greed may get decapitated by demanding more than they have coming.
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grandma tresspassed. she should get the maximum penalty for tresspassing. nothing less, nothing more.
I believe you answered your own question.
This case has already impacted Trump's case because the mainstream media think it has, and have said so.
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They have to keep voters from being able to vote for Trump because he’s "a threat to our democracy".
www.breitbart.com
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They have to keep voters from being able to vote for Trump because he’s "a threat to our democracy".
January 6 Committee Democrats Say They Fear Trump Will Put Them in Jail
House Democrats who led an investigation into former President Donald Trump's role in the January 6 Capitol riot say they are worried about their safety and being arrested if the former president wins reelection.
www.breitbart.com