Can we talk about illegal firearm sales?

[manbearpig]

Yes.

These laws are violations of human rights

You seem hellbent on those rights disappearing

 

[Sharky]

Since you started with this, let's take this analogy a bit further. If a pharmaceutical drug manufacturing concern gets a legal order from a pharmacy for fentanyl and fills that legal order, should the drug company be prosecuted if one of the pharmacists sells said fentanyl out the back door to people who don't have a prescription?

I'm not going to wait around for a reply. I'll just leave this here...

From the OPs article----->

"...lawsuit seeking to hold local gun retailers and major gun manufacturers, such as Smith & Wesson, Glock and others, responsible for illegal sales like those uncovered in the investigation."

So if S/W, Glock etc sell stock, legally, to an FFL holder, should the gun manufacturer be prosecuted if a gun store employee sells guns illegally out the back door?

 

[Ifallalot]

You seem hellbent on those rights disappearing

You're the exact type of clown that is happily letting everything get chipped away

Thanks for that

 

[manbearpig]

You're the exact type of clown that is happily letting everything get chipped away

Thanks for that

Dead wrong.

Thanks for that?

 

[Ifallalot]

Dead wrong.

Thanks for that?

I appreciate your assertion

Someday you'll learn that the enemies will never stop no matter how much you try and compromise

 

[manbearpig]

I appreciate your assertion

Someday you'll learn that the enemies will never stop no matter how much you try and compromise

“Enemies”

stay angry my friend

 

[Duffy LaCoronilla]

so we should not prosecute the illegal sellers? because freedom?

We should prosecute the actual people who break the law.

 

[Duffy LaCoronilla]

I'm not going to wait around for a reply. I'll just leave this here...

From the OPs article----->

"...lawsuit seeking to hold local gun retailers and major gun manufacturers, such as Smith & Wesson, Glock and others, responsible for illegal sales like those uncovered in the investigation."

So if S/W, Glock etc sell stock, legally, to an FFL holder, should the gun manufacturer be prosecuted if a gun store employee sells guns illegally out the back door?

The federal employees who issue the licenses should also be prosecuted along with the undercover agents who attempt to make the illegal purchases.

 

[Ifallalot]

Pretty obvious we have a lot of people on this board who think the ATF was the good guys at Ruby Ridge

 

[manbearpig]

Pretty obvious we have a lot of people on this board who think the ATF was the good guys at Ruby Ridge

Always with the theatrics

 

[Sauce]

Since you started with this, let's take this analogy a bit further. If a pharmaceutical drug manufacturing concern gets a legal order from a pharmacy for fentanyl and fills that legal order, should the drug company be prosecuted if one of the pharmacists sells said fentanyl out the back door to people who don't have a prescription?

If the drug company is aware of the mismanagement and continues to supply the pharmacist, then yes I think the drug company deserves punishment. Aiding and abetting any crime is a crime in my book, but I have no idea if that applies in law. Just my opinion.

 

[hal9000]

If the drug company is aware of the mismanagement and continues to supply the pharmacist, then yes I think the drug company deserves punishment. Aiding and abetting any crime is a crime in my book, but I have no idea if that applies in law. Just my opinion.

the pharmaceutical companies are just manufacturers of inanimate objects according to GrossFlab.

 

[Sharky]

If the drug company is aware of the mismanagement and continues to supply the pharmacist, then yes I think the drug company deserves punishment. Aiding and abetting any crime is a crime in my book, but I have no idea if that applies in law. Just my opinion.

Covered that.

“If a pharmaceutical drug manufacturing concern gets a legal order from a pharmacy for fentanyl and fills that legal order...” -Sharky

Note use of word “legal.”

Twice.

 

[ElOgro]

Covered that.

“If a pharmaceutical drug manufacturing concern gets a legal order from a pharmacy for fentanyl and fills that legal order.” -Sharky

Note use of word “legal.”

Twice.

Go after the precursor suppliers. That will fix it.

 

[Mike_Jones]

feel free to point out which facts they got wrong.

facts are a liberal conspiracy

Oh, so NOW a leftist considers facts more important than names.
.

 

[Bayview]

Good, law abiding citizens legally arming themselves.

N.J. reports huge jump in number of people seeking gun carry permits

The numbers reflect the first complete picture of the number of those carrying guns in the state since the Supreme Court ruling.

www.nj.com

 

[Mike_Jones]

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Sorry, charging a seller or a manufacturer for a straw firearm purchase is just bullshit. Sellers and manufacturers have no way to judge a buyer's intent. The proposed law would only exist for the purpose of punishing people you don't like.
.

 

[Kento]

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Sellers and manufacturers have no way to judge a buyer's intent.
.

Sounds like more comprehensive background checks are needed.

 

[Lance Mannion]

I’m beginning to think that maybe the drug cartels should be governing Mexico.

 

[ElOgro]

I’m beginning to think that maybe the drug cartels should be governing Mexico.

What makes you think they’re not? Lots of moving pieces and they have their grubby paws in enough of them to have the controlling interest.