Filipe Toledo - "food poisoning"

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The "food poisoning" claim made by the World Champ after he chickened out at Pipe received a thorough analysis on the Feb 2 episode of The Grit podcast.

Does food poisoning involve engaging ex-World Champ instagram trolls and swilling beers with friends? :roflmao:
 

Woke AF

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He, as the WSL world champ, has the ability and financial means to conquer his fear and instead he chooses avoidance and cowardice.

The absurdity of the current way the tour is run allows him to do this.
Since when can money buy your way past mental limitations?

It can buy coaches, therapists, and training but all of those things are not enough.

You really do lack empathy.
 

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Best surfer = The one having the most fun.

-----or------

Best surfer = The one who overcomes all challenges.

Real or imagined I might posit, if I even knew what that means?
 

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It’s a strange one as Felipe has made the quarters of 2 pipe contests
and the semis of Chopes in previous years .

He may well go on and do well at these locations in the future ?

Felipe would do well by employing the likes of Billy Kemper , there are many many
talented Hawaiian watermen to add mental strength self belief to his already
great surfing .

in saying that ….he has made a dick of himself at pipe this year .
 

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It’s a strange one as Felipe has made the quarters of 2 pipe contests
and the semis of Chopes in previous years .

He may well go on and do well at these locations in the future ?

Felipe would do well by employing the likes of Billy Kemper , there are many many
talented Hawaiian watermen to add mental strength self belief to his already
great surfing .

in saying that ….he has made a dick of himself at pipe this year .
Those were all small days for those breaks. That's what's most infuriating, he obviously has the talent, but he's just afraid. He could be one of the greats of the sport but instead he's gonna be a footnote. Unless he changes things up in the next couple of years.
 
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Since when can money buy your way past mental limitations?

It can buy coaches, therapists, and training but all of those things are not enough.

You really do lack empathy.
Other pros have spent years using coaches, therapists, and at-the-spot training to successfully get past their mental blocks at heavy waves on tour.

That's what money can buy in terms of getting past mental limitations - a lot better chance at success than no money.

This has nothing to do with empathy, more that the WSL has created a scenario where World Champs flee Pipe.
 

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Other pros have spent years using coaches, therapists, and at-the-spot training to successfully get past their mental blocks at heavy waves on tour.

That's what money can buy in terms of getting past mental limitations - a lot better chance at success than no money.

This has nothing to do with empathy, more that the WSL has created a scenario where World Champs flee Pipe.
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"In small waves, the 28-year-old ranks among surfing’s modern greats, and Toledo has performed well in serious swells throughout his career – finishing fifth in the Pipeline Pro last year and third in Tahiti in 2018.

But repeated questions have been asked over his big-wave approach upon his two world titles and the WSL format that decides the championship in a winner-takes-all shoot-out at Trestles in California, typically a smaller, high-performance break."
 

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Those were all small days for those breaks. That's what's most infuriating, he obviously has the talent, but he's just afraid. He could be one of the greats of the sport but instead he's gonna be a footnote. Unless he changes things up in the next couple of years.
Kelly Slater was afraid of big waves at the start of his career. He found some Hawai'ians to help him surf bigger and bigger waves. There are also apnea courses for surfers now. He's world champ and has plenty of resources available to him, he just doesn't want to use them. :barf:
 

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Other pros have spent years using coaches, therapists, and at-the-spot training to successfully get past their mental blocks at heavy waves on tour.

That's what money can buy in terms of getting past mental limitations - a lot better chance at success than no money.

This has nothing to do with empathy, more that the WSL has created a scenario where World Champs flee Pipe.
Those things can help but only help. He is the only one who can get past them. Money is not essential to overcome this, people do it all the time.

And this discussion has everything to do with empathy. If you experienced it, you would understand how challenging and debilitating these types of problems can be. He's a great surfer, period.

The WSL is a joke. If the person who 'wins' it doesn't like to surf scary waves, so what.
 
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Those things can help but only help. He is the only one who can get past them. Money is not essential to overcome this, people do it all the time.

And this discussion has everything to do with empathy. If you experienced it, you would understand how challenging and debilitating these types of problems can be. He's a great surfer, period.

The WSL is a joke. If the person who 'wins' it doesn't like to surf scary waves, so what.
If he wants to be respected and remembered as a great surfer, he needs to work on this. He doesn't have to. Probably won't. He's already pretty rich so if being respected outside of his inner circle doesn't matter to him, so be it. But he's gonna have to take the heat, and I'm will be trolling him from the front row seats! :monkey: