Are the Democrats about to cook up a fake war

[Ifallalot]

You went out and voted for the same political party and some of the same people responsible for Iraq. However i will entertain your question, Ukraine elected a pro western govt and Russia could not handle it so they invaded breaking numerous treaties. Which side of the global conflict are you on? The West or Russia, China and Iran?

In case you haven't noticed, there's been a lot of changes in the past two decades. But if we're playing that game, you're going and voting for the same political party who wanted to keep slavery and segregation around? Cool!

You really need to learn more about Ukraine, Russia, NATO, etc. There so much more depth to this situation than you and the press are making out to be, and that's just from basic history before we even start bringing in the influence of international banking

The fact you think there are only two sides to a "global conflict" shows how far off base you are.

You sound like someone from the Bush administration

 

[sirfun]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1501715723923697670

 

[sirfun]

 

[mundus]

In case you haven't noticed, there's been a lot of changes in the past two decades. But if we're playing that game, you're going and voting for the same political party who wanted to keep slavery and segregation around? Cool!

You really need to learn more about Ukraine, Russia, NATO, etc. There so much more depth to this situation than you and the press are making out to be, and that's just from basic history before we even start bringing in the influence of international banking

The fact you think there are only two sides to a "global conflict" shows how far off base you are.

You sound like someone from the Bush administration

LMAO BTW the way Trump admin was full of globalist bankers and you defended it nonstop. I am sure your Boi Putin appreciates you shilling for him.

 

[afoaf]

The US needs to give California and Texas back to Mexico because many people living there say they’re Mexican. Historically, those areas are Mexico as well. Mexico City probably would prefer a larger buffer between it and the US too.

All of Putin’s arguments work!

we have lots of weapons here too, so we're obviously a threat to Mexico

double bonus points for reclaiming territory AND neutralizing an armed opponent

 

[StuAzole]

Why won't the soft-handed effeminates raging against ARE ENEMIES enlist or get a commission through OCS? The Swamp is calling for mobilization. We're on the verge of war here. Sign up TODAY to fight for the GAE. Here's the new ensign, brought to you by MIcrosoft (TM).

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Fags of our Fathers.

You mean Ted Cruz?

 

[Lance Mannion]

we have lots of weapons here too, so we're obviously a threat to Mexico

double bonus points for reclaiming territory AND neutralizing an armed opponent

This would be problematic as Mexican-Americans shoot way better than Mexican-Mexicans, and they have lots of guns.

 

[afoaf]

In case you haven't noticed, there's been a lot of changes in the past two decades. But if we're playing that game, you're going and voting for the same political party who wanted to keep slavery and segregation around? Cool!

You really need to learn more about Ukraine, Russia, NATO, etc. There so much more depth to this situation than you and the press are making out to be, and that's just from basic history before we even start bringing in the influence of international banking

The fact you think there are only two sides to a "global conflict" shows how far off base you are.

You sound like someone from the Bush administration

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1501715723923697670

ding ding ding

Russia had, up until very recently, little or no problem with NATO creep

but all of a sudden it is a bridge too far

Are the Democrats about to cook up a fake war

In this bet, since Russia claims part of Ukraine, who would win the bet if Russia hit an 'annexed' region with a tactical Nuke? Good point. How about "$100 via Paypal that no nukes are touched off by Russia in act of war anywhere in the world except within their border as set on 1/1/2022."

forum.surfer.com

ps. I always have a chuckle when I read the title of this thread

 

[Ifallalot]

ding ding ding

Russia had, up until very recently, little or no problem with NATO creep

but all of a sudden it is a bridge too far

Are the Democrats about to cook up a fake war

In this bet, since Russia claims part of Ukraine, who would win the bet if Russia hit an 'annexed' region with a tactical Nuke? Good point. How about "$100 via Paypal that no nukes are touched off by Russia in act of war anywhere in the world except within their border as set on 1/1/2022."

forum.surfer.com

ps. I always have a chuckle when I read the title of this thread

Holy sh!t you actually believe that nonsense from the Tweet? Ok Toby Keith

NATO isn't even the issue as much as historical issues

 

[afoaf]

the difference between the point raised in that thread and whatever point you're trying to make is that they are substantiating their claims by referencing statements made by public officials and the comings and goings of various multi-national trade and policy organizations.

you just post rolly heads

why does Russia care about NATO membership when it was already bordered by 4 other NATO countries; the incursion makes that 5 with Finland petitioning to join (with Sweden next door).

why does Russia care about NATO membership when it does extensive business with NATO as a whole and at the individual member state level?

why are you so eager to believe Putin's narrative and none other?

 

[Driftcoast]

I think Ukraine is the end for the time being. Probably about two weeks unless there is a sheer will of resistance among the Ukrainians. By tomorrow there won't be any organized Ukranian resistance at the battle lines and Kiev will probably be on fire in many places. If he hasn't already there will probably be an offer for the president and his cabinet safe passage to leave Ukraine...a plane ride by a third country. He will then asses the west's reaction...which to this point has been extremely timid and amusing to him and then make the calculations if going after the Baltic Nato countries Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania.

Guys like Putin and Xi get to make decisions that are calculated in decades where US presidents and many Western democracies only think in 2-4 year increments. It's a real weakness in a two party system when both parties are so maligned.

Have we found out yet why the mayor of Moscows wife wired Hunter 2.5 million yet?

They've been hearing explosions and gunfire in the center of the capital since the invasion began, meaning Russians infiltrated well before this started:
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The image in the banner is from a staged photo op using civilians who've never held a weapon before:
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I'm betting on 48 hours.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1497254783002062848

This is basically over. People slinging cope about how the Russians don't have air superiority or there's heavy resistance in some Oblast need to read "Stormtroop Tactics."

The Ukrainians never had a plan for defense.

Fail for Von, fail for PRCD, and PRCD was in the US military?

 

[Ifallalot]

the difference between the point raised in that thread and whatever point you're trying to make is that they are substantiating their claims by referencing statements made by public officials and the comings and goings of various multi-national trade and policy organizations.

you just post rolly heads

why does Russia care about NATO membership when it was already bordered by 4 other NATO countries; the incursion makes that 5 with Finland petitioning to join (with Sweden next door).

why does Russia care about NATO membership when it does extensive business with NATO as a whole and at the individual member state level?

why are you so eager to believe Putin's narrative and none other?

And that's the thread I originally posted, and what I'm substantiating

You quoted this dipshit

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1501715723923697670

Russia has been back and forth with certain areas of Ukraine for a millenia, this is a regional conflict mainly created with historical implications. NATO entry to Ukraine specifically was a Russian redline despite the other NATO countries because the significance of Ukraine itself, as you can see from that thread

 

[StuAzole]

And that's the thread I originally posted, and what I'm substantiating

You quoted this dipshit

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1501715723923697670

Russia has been back and forth with certain areas of Ukraine for a millenia, this is a regional conflict mainly created with historical implications. NATO entry to Ukraine specifically was a Russian redline despite the other NATO countries because the significance of Ukraine itself, as you can see from that thread

So it wasn’t NATO, but NATO taking a piece of land Putin wanted for himself.

I see nothing in that explanation that helps Putin’s cause.

 

[afoaf]

but, as was pointed out in the article I referenced, Russia has had no issue with other adjacent state with which it has similar historical relationships from joining NATO. why this one, why now? why take Putin's public statements at face value?

 

[PRCD]

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[Ifallalot]

but, as was pointed out in the article I referenced, Russia has had no issue with other adjacent state with which it has similar historical relationships from joining NATO. why this one, why now? why take Putin's public statements at face value?

Because Putin (and many Russians) believe Ukraine is part of Russia. It's that easy

Regional conflict

Now the question is why is the West so hung up on this country?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1583920039430094849

 

[PRCD]

Because Putin (and many Russians) believe Ukraine is part of Russia. It's that easy

Regional conflict

Now the question is why is the West so hung up on this country?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1583920039430094849

This is a fight over who controls Eurasia.

 

[mundus]

And that's the thread I originally posted, and what I'm substantiating

You quoted this dipshit

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1501715723923697670

Russia has been back and forth with certain areas of Ukraine for a millenia, this is a regional conflict mainly created with historical implications. NATO entry to Ukraine specifically was a Russian redline despite the other NATO countries because the significance of Ukraine itself, as you can see from that thread

Nato membersip was a pretext

And that's the thread I originally posted, and what I'm substantiating

You quoted this dipshit

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1501715723923697670

Russia has been back and forth with certain areas of Ukraine for a millenia, this is a regional conflict mainly created with historical implications. NATO entry to Ukraine specifically was a Russian redline despite the other NATO countries because the significance of Ukraine itself, as you can see from that thread

Nato was an obvious pretext, Ukraine offered to never join Nato prewar. You accept Russian propaganda as gospel like a useful idiot Tankie.

 

[mundus]

Because Putin (and many Russians) believe Ukraine is part of Russia. It's that easy

Regional conflict

Now the question is why is the West so hung up on this country?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1583920039430094849

And the Ukrainians dont, you back the Authoritarian every time!

 

[Ifallalot]

Nato membersip was a pretext

Nato was an obvious pretext, Ukraine offered to never join Nato prewar. You accept Russian propaganda as gospel like a useful idiot Tankie.

Do you know what a tankie is Toby Keith?