Trouble in Paradise: FBI Raids Home of Epstein Linked Clinton Donor and conservative America collectively sh!ts its pants in unison…

StuAzole

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Looks like they finally got him! :drowning:

"The act, and concerns about the illegal possession of classified "national defense information" are the basis for the search warrant, according to the two sources. The raid had nothing to do with the January 6 investigation or any other alleged wrongdoing by the former president.

In February, Archivist David Ferriero testified before Congress that his agency began talking with Trump's people right after they left office and that the Trump camp had already returned 15 boxes of documents to the Archives. Ferriero said that in those materials, the Archives discovered items "marked as classified national security information," unleashing further inquiries as to whether Trump continued to possess classified material.

The basic outlines of the facts surrounding this timeline have been confirmed by the former president. He has previously said that he was returning any official records to the Archives, labeling any confusion in the matter as "an ordinary and routine process to ensure the preservation of my legacy and in accordance with the Presidential Records Act." He also claimed the Archives "did not 'find' anything" in what he had already been returned, suggesting that there was nothing sensitive. He said the documents had inadvertently shipped to Florida during the six-hour transition period in which his belongings were moved..."

All he has to do is show us the warrant. Or the itemized list of documents taken they are required to leave.
 
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$kully

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Do the subjects of warrants usually release warrants?
Do the subjects of warrants usually have half the country collectively shitting themselves because the fbi served said warrant? It’s a good thing you didn’t vote for Trump and never supported him and have no skin in the game! :monkey:
 

GromsDad

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West of the Atlantic. East of the ICW.
Do the subjects of warrants usually have half the country collectively shitting themselves because the fbi served said warrant? It’s a good thing you didn’t vote for Trump and never supported him and have no skin in the game! :monkey:
When the sitting president of the United States sends agents to raid the former president and his #1 political opponent for the first time in American history there had better be a damned good explanation. Why are the President, Attorney General and FBI Director hiding?
 

Sharkbiscuit

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Ask a lawyer why he should show you the warrant.
I don't think either side showing the warrant serves their interests, but it's pretty obvious that's an atrociously bad idea for the side doing the investigating, whereas it's a garden variety not good for the side getting investigated.

Unless they were looking for Harry Potter and left with nothing - then the side getting investigated should release the warrant to prove their claims and make the FBI look bad.
 

kidfury

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When the sitting president of the United States sends agents to raid the former president and his #1 political opponent for the first time in American history there had better be a damned good explanation. Why are the President, Attorney General and FBI Director hiding?
Can you imagine how much effort it takes to indict, arrest, and prosecute trump's entire criminal operation? This trump guy has cost us taxpayers billions.
 
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hal9000

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When the sitting president of the United States sends agents to raid the former president and his #1 political opponent for the first time in American history there had better be a damned good explanation. Why are the President, Attorney General and FBI Director hiding?
where's your evidence that this occurred?
 
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casa_mugrienta

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Do the subjects of warrants usually have half the country collectively shitting themselves because the fbi served said warrant? It’s a good thing you didn’t vote for Trump and never supported him and have no skin in the game! :monkey:
That's the great thing about it.

You don't have to vote for Trump to taunt and troll your ilk.

You don't even have to care about politics.

:)
 
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Sharky

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Don't they need more than some secret documents in a locked room at an ex president's house? That can't be all they are going after.

In the end, wasn't Hillary found to have something like 65 documents on her server that were deemed "secret" and another 22 that were classified "top secret"?

And she got like what, a "you SO naughty!" notice?

There has to be more than that.
 

casa_mugrienta

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Don't they need more than some secret documents in a locked room at an ex president's house? That can't be all they are going after.

In the end, wasn't Hillary found to have something like 65 documents on her server that were deemed "secret" and another 22 that were classified "top secret"?

And she got like what, a "you SO naughty!" notice?

There has to be more than that.
"The act, and concerns about the illegal possession of classified "national defense information" are the basis for the search warrant, according to the two sources. The raid had nothing to do with the January 6 investigation or any other alleged wrongdoing by the former president.

In February, Archivist David Ferriero testified before Congress that his agency began talking with Trump's people right after they left office and that the Trump camp had already returned 15 boxes of documents to the Archives. Ferriero said that in those materials, the Archives discovered items "marked as classified national security information," unleashing further inquiries as to whether Trump continued to possess classified material.

The basic outlines of the facts surrounding this timeline have been confirmed by the former president. He has previously said that he was returning any official records to the Archives, labeling any confusion in the matter as "an ordinary and routine process to ensure the preservation of my legacy and in accordance with the Presidential Records Act." He also claimed the Archives "did not 'find' anything" in what he had already been returned, suggesting that there was nothing sensitive. He said the documents had inadvertently shipped to Florida during the six-hour transition period in which his belongings were moved..."

 

Sharkbiscuit

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Don't they need more than some secret documents in a locked room at an ex president's house? That can't be all they are going after.

In the end, wasn't Hillary found to have something like 65 documents on her server that were deemed "secret" and another 22 that were classified "top secret"?

And she got like what, a "you SO naughty!" notice?

There has to be more than that.
Beats me what they were looking for/found at Mar-a-Lago but the classified stuff I think depends on the information itself. Everyone has been talking about the CIA's drone program for 20 years but it's technically classified. If Drudge Report Dunked on Obama/Clinton and Hilldogg said "we just got pwned" in an email forwarding a Drudge Report news story, that is her having classified information in email.

Maybe a you so naughty postcard might get sent to Mar-a-Lago and forwarded to Bedminster.
 

Sharky

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From Casa's link:

"On Monday at about 9 a.m. EDT, two dozen FBI agents and technicians showed up at Donald Trump's Florida home to execute a search warrant to obtain any government-owned documents that might be in the possession of Trump but are required to be delivered to the Archives under the provisions of the 1978 Presidential Records Act. (In response to the Hillary Clinton email scandal, Trump himself signed a law in 2018 that made it a felony to remove and retain classified documents.)

The act establishes that presidential records are the property of the U.S. government and not a president's private property. Put in place after Watergate to avoid the abuses of the Nixon administration, the law imposes strict penalties for failure to comply. "Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined" $2,000, up to three years in prison or "shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States."

So that sounds like Trump stiffened the very law now directed at him after Hillary pretty much skated for doing the same thing.

Whoops.