Teachers are delightful.

Chocki

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“The song itself has, in a way, come full circle, albeit in a depressingly sinister way. It began as a perfect representation of jingoistic Cold War novelty, necessary in the world of 1980s wrestling — the American good guy body slamming foreign bad guys while waving the stars and stripes. Somewhere in the 2010s it reemerged as a self-aware, tongue-in-cheek tool to poke fun at blind patriotism. And now, in our current timeline of facts not mattering and reality itself in question, it’s reared its head again — a song once used to drum up faux-patriotism now unironically a rallying cry for a new brand of alt-right nationalism, the soundtrack to “America First” fever. So where will the song go next?”

 

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One thing some of the right wingers worried about wokeness in education is ignoring that the right wing students and parents are on a hair trigger to detect any far left instruction and they are emboldened to go complain to the principal, the Dept or District.

At Fullerton, it was the rich right wing kids that complained to the dept more than the poor lefties.

(That could be because OC is trump country.)

I brought this up in an anti-racist training and the woke person said, "Yeah."

It's easy for the admins and the unions to say this stuff but when you are on the ground fighting the battle, dealing right nutty right and left wingers you got to play it straight down the middle with a measured response.
The obvious difference is that the institution of public education - meaning: its bureaucracies and unions - is completely left wing. The so-called "right wing" kids and parents are, at best, going to be the brakes on this process but not reverse it. The left wing kids and parents only accelerate it on its existing path. Only the institution itself can reform. It better do so quickly because it's accomplishing none of its stated purpose.

"In any bureaucracy, the people devoted to the benefit of the bureaucracy itself always get in control and those dedicated to the goals the bureaucracy is supposed to accomplish have less and less influence, and sometimes are eliminated entirely.
 
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The obvious difference is that the institution of public education - meaning: its bureaucracies and unions - is completely left wing. The so-called "right wing" kids and parents are, at best, going to be the brakes on this process but not reverse it. The left wing kids and parents only accelerate it on its existing path. Only the institution itself can reform. It better do so quickly because it's accomplishing none of its stated purpose.

"In any bureaucracy, the people devoted to the benefit of the bureaucracy itself always get in control and those dedicated to the goals the bureaucracy is supposed to accomplish have less and less influence, and sometimes are eliminated entirely.
Completely left-wing. Uh-huh. It's all wings, is it?

Care to ponder how many people in said bureaucracy and union are registered republicans, democrats, and libertarians?

The world is not black and white. The sweet bird of truth flies without wings.
 
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My wife has been reading about the New England Puritans. They would dunk gossiping and histrionic women like this teacher in the river several times using a special chair. My wife agrees with this policy and says my mother would be dunked. One troublesome settler woman got her entire family exiled and subsequently slaughtered by one of the Eastern tribes.
 

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A well-educated, well-connected, free-thinking Englishman, Morton came to America for business reasons. He held a senior partnership in a trading venture sponsored by the Crown. In 1624, he sailed aboard the Unity with Capt. Wollaston and 30 indentured servants. They arrived safely, settled in the future Quincy, Mass., and then began trading with the Indians for furs.
"Indentured servants" was a euphemism for "Shanghaid children from the UK who usually died in captivity." Millions were enslaved.

Is the slaver Morton a hero of yours?
 

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"Indentured servants" was a euphemism for "Shanghaid children from the UK who usually died in captivity." Millions were enslaved.

Is the slaver Morton a hero of yours?
WYPIPO CANT BE SLAVES
 
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If white peoples were slaves then it's ok that black people were slaves. Knice. Stocked
 

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I didn't know there was all this teacher hate.

Our kids have had mostly all great teachers through 12 years of public school.
You live in San Luis Obispo. Pleasantville. The whitest place in California. It’s a cartoon come to life. Check your white privilege and go pick up The Beaver at the soda shop.
 
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My wife has been reading about the New England Puritans. They would dunk gossiping and histrionic women like this teacher in the river several times using a special chair. My wife agrees with this policy and says my mother would be dunked. One troublesome settler woman got her entire family exiled and subsequently slaughtered by one of the Eastern tribes.
so your wife has Puritan tendencies.
That explains a lot and sorry for you.
 
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WYPIPO CANT BE SLAVES
The Jamestown colonists wanted to set up a big forced-labor slave plantation like the Spanish, but couldn't because there was no gold. The only thing of value was food and crops and if you tired to force growing this the productivity fell to nothing. From [1] ,"... It was Smith[the guy who ran Jamestown] who was the first to realize that the model of colonization that had worked so well for Cortés and Pizarro simply would not work in North America. The underlying circumstances were just too different. Smith noted that, unlike the Aztecs and Incas, the peoples of Virginia did not have gold. Indeed, he noted in his diary, “Victuals, you must know is all their wealth.”..."

They even set up a governor(fake king) with a bunch of nobles who owned large land tracts and then planted them with settlers but with the only thing valuable being land forcing them to work it was problematic when there was so much free land. As you've said they would run off any chance they got. From the book,"...Just as the attempt to impose draconian rule in Virginia failed, so did the plans for the same type of institutions in Maryland and Carolina. The reasons were similar. In all cases it proved to be impossible to force settlers into a rigid hierarchical society, because there were simply too many options open to them in the New World. Instead, they had to be provided with incentives for them to want to work..."

[1]Daron Acemoglu, James A. Robinson - Why Nations Fail: The Origins of Power, Prosperity and Poverty (2012)

Indentured servitude was about the best they could do. It gave the slaves incentive to work, to wit, they'd be free eventually. They were often stolen in the first place, so there wasn't much they could do but work. They started bringing black slaves over in 1619 after they had too many problems with white slaves starting in 1607. The black and white slaves would often run away together, but the plantation owners paid Indians to bring them back at first.
 
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Amazing history above. Slavery from the beginning
Europe established slavery in the new world long before we were a country. We inherited slavery as a system. The Portuguese, the British, the Spanish, the French, the Dutch, and the Danish set it up. They set up a trade triangle with slaves as a product.

"The first side of the triangle was the export of goods from Europe to Africa. A number of African kings and merchants took part in the trading of enslaved people from 1440 to about 1833. For each captive, the African rulers would receive a variety of goods from Europe. These included guns, ammunition, alcohol, Indigo died Indian textiles, and other factory-made goods.[69] The second leg of the triangle exported enslaved Africans across the Atlantic Ocean to the Americas and the Caribbean Islands. The third and final part of the triangle was the return of goods to Europe from the Americas. The goods were the products of slave-labour plantations and included cotton, sugar, tobacco, molasses and rum.[70] Sir John Hawkins, considered the pioneer of the British slave trade, was the first to run the Triangular trade, making a profit at every stop."

Then we spent 23 billion dollars and killed close to a million people to free the slaves. It's a shameful history. Europe needs to step up and acknowledge their role in establishing the system. If reparations are to be paid, Europe needs to pay and pay big.
 
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