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Then you’re not the right fit for me.I need money survive now, not in a year. So faced with expenses today, $15/hr now sounds better if it will keep me off welfare.
If I take your $10 I'll need some government financial assistance until that year when I prove myself to you. Do I deserve to be under surveillance for that year?
They are two very different things, and are problems that likely have two very different root causes.The guy with a 4 bedroom house that makes six-figures yet has 5-6 figures worth of credit card debt and a country club membership is not much different than the neglectful parent that doesn't adequately feed their kids yet smokes 2 packs a day. Priorities.
I look at the scenario you described as basically an education (which it is). Accept lower pay, live like a monk and maybe go into some modest debt in the process with a chance at a well paying job in a year. Kinda of like what college is supposed to be?Then you’re not the right fit for me.
Actually no, it's none of your business.When someone (government) is FORCING me to pay someone above market value because “they can’t afford rent” then it is my goddamn business what they’re paying for instead of rent.
LOL.Derp.
Here’s the deal (again). At $10 an hour it’s worth the RISK for me to hire a person with little to no experience. Within about a year that person will be able to work on their own at around $30 an hour plus benefits.
Or they can get that “other job” flipping burgers for $15 an hour and within a year they’ll be making $15.75 an hour.
Or more realistically that person with no experience or education and maybe did time or fought in Iraq an has some ptsd issues (these are the type I hire) never gets a job.
$15 an minimum wage hurts poor people the most.
Employers are not just going to eat that cost.
They aren’t.
Either people get laid off or prices go up (which hurts the poor the most) or both.
This isn’t a controversial fact.
Even former CA governor Jerry Brown said (when he was signing into law a MW increase) the “it doesn’t make economic sense” but it’s makes people feel good (the people who pass these laws) about themselves.
It's none of your business what Duffy pays his employees.Actually no, it's none of your business.
They do the work, you pay them and STFU.
I have 3 employees. The newest one has been with the company for 18 years.Well, not for long.
No, they are similar. Both makes conscious choices to spend their money on one thing and not the other.They are two very different things, and are problems that likely have two very different root causes.
Pettiness, envy and dickish behavior = youA: “Hey man, I need a raise because I can’t make rent.”
B: “Didn’t you just buy a new tv and Xbox?”
A: “it’s none of your business what I buy.”
B: “I guess you getting evicted is none of my business either.”
It's none of your business what Duffy pays his employees.
So even at $10, you're not actually hiring anyone. LOL.I have 3 employees. The newest one has been with the company for 18 years.
Very true.Duffy has a valid point
he's purposely building mobility in to his hiring and employment practices
for this he should be lauded. straight up.
there are programs that allow someone to pay below federal minimum wage,
but, oddly, there is not one specific to this type of business practice...essentially
on the job vocational education.
that is a clear shortcoming in the system
That price is outdated. Which is good on Hammies and everyone else who doesn't know, because it means that they don't eat their enough to quote the price.All this is nice, but if I read correctly a while back, the answer to the question is ten cents.
Your big mac will be about 10 cents more expensive.
The same people who don't want to pay a living wage also think that taxation is theft yet they force their employees on government welfare.If I take your $10 I'll need some government financial assistance until that year when I prove myself to you. Do I deserve to be under surveillance for that year?
Actually no I can’t.LOL.
If you want to train people at $10/hour, you can do it at $15 as well. Is it at exactly day 365?
Ive already explained this multiple times. My work requires numerous certifications in order for someone to work on their own. I can’t bill for an employees time if they are certified because my clients won’t pay it. The 1 year mark is an ESTIMATE of how much time it takes to gain the experience and knowledge to get the required certifications.Particularly if a year down the road you're willing/forced to pay $30. At what point during that first year does their work value increase from $10/hour to $30?
Worth $30 to whom?Actually no I can’t.
Ive already explained this multiple times. My work requires numerous certifications in order for someone to work on their own. I can’t bill for an employees time if they are certified because my clients won’t pay it. The 1 year mark is an ESTIMATE of how much time it takes to gain the experience and knowledge to get the required certifications.
Once certified you’re worth $30.
I’m going to assume you have never employed anyone in California but I can assure you that $15 and costs a lot more than $5 extra per hour to hire.
At $10 an hour I’m losing money. At $15 it’s not worth the risk.
That’s what this is about. How much am I willing to risk to invest in a new employee? I’ve done the numbers. You need to factor in cost of employment, is this person reliable, do I expect to have enough work in the next year, 5 years, 10 years to support this additional employee? Will the extra stress, time investment, money investment, etc result in a higher profit for the company and will that be worth the extra investment?
I tap out above $10 an hour.
The rookie.I have 3 employees. The newest one has been with the company for 18 years.