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The Jordan Peterson Thread
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I agree that there are both crazy far right and crazy far left running about our country. But I'm not sure I agree with calling the Trump administration crazy far right. Perhaps I've missed some policy choices on their part though (Seriously, I've tuned out a lot due to the overall signal/noise ratio)
What policies and/or bills has the Trump administration and/or Republican led Senate pursued that you or others here would categorize as crazy far right?
I see, you stupidly took my point literally, tried to make a gotcha With it and that's now somehow my fault.
When I said trans people can "hear him" I didn't mean literally sit in front of the computer and listen.
I meant that transgender people are aware of JP's hate, even when he's not talking directly to them.
I answered to the point somebody made that JP is talking to academia in his videos.
Try to follow the thread of the conversation next time. K?
So it took you half a dozen replies to clarify your position? I'm supposed to know you didn't mean it literally, how exactly?
Either way, my point stands. Ever hear the expression 'If you don't like abortion, don't have on'. Do you agree? Pro lifers are upset about the fact that people get abortions, but most of us are sensible enough to not want to change laws to appease those folks.
Same goes for NFL fans who are butthurt about players kneeling. Feel free to change the channel during the anthem or better yet, don't watch at all. Vote with your feet, eyeballs, and dollars. It's called freedom of speech and capitalism.
I'm thinking of the freedom caucus in the senate.
I can get you those bills but not just right now.
I got a teach a Zoom class.
Here's some fun reading in the meantime.
America’s Future Is Texas
With right-wing zealots taking over the legislature even as the state’s demographics shift leftward, Texas has become the nation’s bellwether.
That's because he doesn't consider the fair or the circus.
I don't care how much dumb stuff they fry, if there are no barnyard oddities or something resembling that dinner table in Freaks, it's just not a fair.
Ifallalot actually has the advantage over us in one major way - he's in a place that will have those fairs. And I think I speak for all of us when I say I want to see some pics/vids of two-headed gila monsters, eight-assed monkeys, dwarfs running on coals, etc.
In the House of My Parents sounds like the opening (and beyond) chapters of every 4chan hero.
that is a small group of Congressional Reps, I don't think they've done anything substantial other than get John Boehner to focus on lobbying instead of legislatingI'm thinking of the freedom caucus in the senate.
I can get you those bills but not just right now.
I got a teach a Zoom class.
Here's some fun reading in the meantime.
America’s Future Is Texas
With right-wing zealots taking over the legislature even as the state’s demographics shift leftward, Texas has become the nation’s bellwether.www.newyorker.com
I tried reading that before and got bogged down. It was all State level stuff though in the portion I read. Eventually I will try again
I disagree.
Checks and balances don't allow Trump to pass policies he'd like to pass.
HIs rhetoric indicates that.
His worldview is what makes him far-right, not the actual policies he managed to push through congress.
I get the sense that any refusal by Americans to go along with the collapse of consensus on public reason is being labeled "extreme right wing." For example, I don't want my kids exposed to pedophiles at the library. Extreme right wing! I think CRT is a pernicious Marxist philosophy and Marxism in all its flavors killed about 100 million or more last century. Extreme right wing!
Others saying the right and the left are an equal problem are punting on real problems: "I'm washing my hands of this whole thing!" What is right? What is left? How big is each faction? What makes the "extreme" on either side "extreme?"
OK, go ahead and list out the legislation that either the Republican Senate or the Trump Administration has tried to pass and failed. That, plus stuff they actually passed and Executive Orders are what comprises their policies. Not him being a moron on Twitter. There is 4 years worth of history to work with there, this shouldn't be hard.
To be clear, I agree that the guy is often a moron on Twitter. I think some of that is due to his beliefs. I think some of that is him playing to his base and I think some of that is him tactically dominating the news cycle because the bulk of the media and the left keep going for that same bait on a daily basis. Sharkbiscuit probably wishes he had lures that were this effective.
Again why legislation only? His rhetoric caused unrest and rioting, his refusal to even acknowledge racism in policing, his not so subtle nods to far-right groups..... the list goes on.
How does that not make him far-right?
Is Squidly not far-right because he didn't enforce any legislation?
But since you asked, the Muslim Ban and putting kids in cages are just two examples.
Who takes metaphors literally? Idiots.
No your point doesn't stand.
Pro lifers are upset because, in their mind, they're saving babies.
They perceive injustice, right or wrong.
They don't have to have an abortion to know that.
Trumptards are upset with NFL kneelers because, in their mind, anthem kneeling is disrespecting the flag and the troops.
You don't have to watch NFL to be aware of it or to be bothered by it.
You can stop watching it and guess what, yep they're still kneeling and disrespecting.
Turning a blind eye to something doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.
You are so fucking detached from caring about anything or anybody (other than transgenders) that you can't imagine giving a sh!t about something that doesn't affect you personally but affects other people (transgenders).
legislation only because that is the policy, not trolling on twitter. I disagree that his rhetoric caused unrest and rioting, the rioters caused that.
Putting kids in cages is a holdover policy from at least the Obama Administration.
Agree on the initial rhetoric around Executive Order 13769, though I'd add that the main thrust was attempting to prevent additional terror attacks in the US. However I think they overreached. The Executive Order the Administration replaced that with (Executive Order 13780 and the Presidential Proclamations attached to it) stood up to a Supreme Court challenge so I think it ended up in a roughly reasonable stance.
Trump administration is the one who introduced the family separation policy and enforced it with zero tolerance. If he didn't get told to knock it off by the courts, we would still have children in concentration camps.
So Muslim Ban attempt was not a far-right policy that was ruled illegal by the SCOTUS for that reason?
There is also Stephen Miller's creating immigration policy.
The SCJ pick that is about to happen.