***Official Impeachment Proceedings***

hammies

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I don't know why they're focusing on the qhole quid pro quo thing.

If Trump accepts anything of value (i.e. an investigation of his political rival, for example), it's a vioation of the emoluments clause, quid pro quo or not.
 
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lagunaboy

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When people think they can lie and get away with it then all ethics and morality goes to sh!t
 

hal9000

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Trumpers are nihilistic

I've been saying this for a few years on the erBB and it's been met with nothing but criticism. Now their nihilism is on full display.

Also........a parade of witnesses. None of this is good for Trumby. To suggest otherwise is to live in an alternate reality.

 

hal9000

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The administration is completely consumed by this impeachment process. Just look at Trumby's twitter account.


Also, what happened to the people saying there was no impeachment process? What say you now?
 

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From the New York Post. OUCH!!!!!!!!! o_O






Adam Schiff is wasting the nation’s time with impeachment hearings
By Post Editorial Board

In their first day of public impeachment hearings, Democrats made clear just how weak their case is.

In beyond-dull testimony, the Dems’ first witnesses, Deputy Assistant Secretary of State George Kent and US Chargé d’Affaires in Ukraine Bill Taylor, noted their displeasure with the fact that there were “two channels” (a “regular” and an “irregular” one) to Ukraine, and at some point the goals of the two diverged.

Taylor and Kent complained that President Trump conditioned US aid on Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky announcing that his country would investigate corruption, specifically: Ukrainian interference in the 2016 election and payoffs to then-Vice President Joe Biden’s son Hunter.

That was a policy they disliked, because they feared it would weaken Ukrainian-American ties and Kiev’s ability to defend itself from Russia.

Sorry, but it’s not their place to second-guess Trump or his policies. The president sets foreign policy, not they; if he thought it was important for Ukraine to help uncover evidence of corruption, that’s his call.

As for helping Ukraine defend itself, Trump has done far more than President Barack Obama did, sending not only financial aid but lethal weaponry.

Neither Taylor nor Kent could even offer any direct, first hand evidence that Trump ever set such must-meet conditions — proof that should be essential to remove a duly elected president. Instead, they merely cited third- and fourth-hand rumors. Neither man ever had direct contact with the president.

And there’s evidence of just the opposite: Zelensky says he felt no pressure, and Ukraine didn’t even know the aid had been held up when he spoke to Trump during the July 25 call that set off the impeachment inquiry. Plus, the money was released without Ukraine announcing investigations.

Fact is, Democrats have already decided that Trump is guilty; the hearings are only meant to convince the public. Too bad for them that they’re so far only giving Americans more cause to be skeptical.

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Ouch and now CNN.com too.............................

 
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Ouch and now CNN.com too.............................

That dude is mischaracterizing up the ying yang. He's as dumb as grossfat stupid dad, with all gross fat stupid dad's talking points.