wisdom tooth infection

rspowers

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i have a lot of pain, swelling on my lower back molar. a month ago i had the same thing and it went away with brushing/flossing but it formed a flap near the back molar. i called the dentist on saturday and he wrote me a script for amoxicillan and is going to get me in on monday or tuesday. said i most likely have a wisdom tooth infection. i am 27 and havent had them removed because they never affected me. anyone else have anything like this?
 

money4coffeeman

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Sounds like your dentist is right. Wisdom teeth get much harder to extract as you age, so if youre having problems with them at 27, best do it now rather than 37 or 47. If theyre angled or impacted they can cause damage to adjacent teeth, and even if theyre in, or partially in, nice and straight, they often get gum problems that can become infections. He'll probably tell you to take out at least 2 at a time. As long as youre not allergic or have bleeding problems, pop 2 motrin 1 hr before the surgery, helps heaps with post-op comfort. Dont worry too much, not every case is like the wisdom tooth horror stories you hear.
 
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<img src="/forum/images/graemlins/cussing.gif" alt="" /> I better get that done before mine start to decay... Damn slow evolution.

At least i get some really fun pills to kill the pain <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/foreheadslap.gif" alt="" />
 

rspowers

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met with the oral surgeon today. My infection is mostly gone from the antibiotics and he gave me a medicated mouthwash. I get them removed on monday under general anethesia........
 

rspowers

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Got the teeth out today. They put me under using general anethesia. They called me in the office and put me under within 2 minutes of sitting down. I feel ok for the most part. I was acting really goofy at first. The pain is kinda bad but I am dealing with it so far.

i have a bunch of stiches and it hurst when i swallow. And my nose keeps bleeding. I think they had a tube in my nose that irritated it.
 

elcalvo

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Glad you survived the surgery. I have had all 4 of mine extracted under local. Not the worst medical experience I have ever had but I am glad I don't have to do it again.
 
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The dental diseases have become quite intense and common nowadays. So only a good dental care regime is going to help you prevent those issues. It is also necessary to see the professional dentist for regular checkups. I personally visit the dentist Manhattan Beach for the regular cleaning.
 

laidback

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Crazy, when you think about the old days
Tooth extraction was whiskey & pliers

Not sure what they did about wisdom teeth
 

bigsurfer67

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el_calvo said:
Glad you survived the surgery. I have had all 4 of mine extracted under local. Not the worst medical experience I have ever had but I am glad I don't have to do it again.
Me too...was debating general anesthesia when a co-worker said "what if you don't wake up"? Was pretty basic except the oral surgeon said "on the count of three I'll pull" and yanked them on 2 lol! The snap, crackle, and loud pop is something you don't forget when awake though! Not much pain in recovery over the weekend either...pretty straightforward yanking!
 

rowjimmytour

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laidback said:
Crazy, when you think about the old days
Tooth extraction was whiskey & pliers

Not sure what they did about wisdom teeth
Wife early 90z went to dentist in Limon and he used pliers no whiskey but had an antique needle huge full of novacaine that did not work well :drowning:
 

Mike_Jones

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Mainstream dentistry tends to explain wisdom tooth impaction as an overproduction of teeth, left over from when people grew too many teeth in case some of them were lost. I tend to look at wisdom tooth impaction as jaw bone loss in modern humans. The bone loss continues throughout life, explaining lower front tooth overcrowding as many people age.

Skeletal records of hunter gatherer humans shows robust lower jaws and teeth. Carbohydrate ingestion is a detractor from calcium homeostasis via autoimmune processes.
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littlewave

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squidley said:
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Mainstream dentistry tends to explain wisdom tooth impaction as an overproduction of teeth, left over from when people grew too many teeth in case some of them were lost. I tend to look at wisdom tooth impaction as jaw bone loss in modern humans. The bone loss continues throughout life, explaining lower front tooth overcrowding as many people age.

Skeletal records of hunter gatherer humans shows robust lower jaws and teeth. Carbohydrate ingestion is a detractor from calcium homeostasis via autoimmune processes.
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Way to bury the lead!
 

Mr Doof

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littlewave said:
squidley said:
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Mainstream dentistry tends to explain wisdom tooth impaction as an overproduction of teeth, left over from when people grew too many teeth in case some of them were lost. I tend to look at wisdom tooth impaction as jaw bone loss in modern humans. The bone loss continues throughout life, explaining lower front tooth overcrowding as many people age.

Skeletal records of hunter gatherer humans shows robust lower jaws and teeth. Carbohydrate ingestion is a detractor from calcium homeostasis via autoimmune processes.
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Way to bury the lead!

I was under the impression from something I read way back in those fine, always sunny days at University, that the modern human has wisdom teeth problems due to:

1 Change is diet

2 Evolution

3 Dental care

First, we have softer foods with less rocks and whatnot in it, so we aren't ruining our teeth like we used to, so we are retaining more of our teeth for longer. (But more sugary foods too which causes lots of bacterial growth.) More teeth in the jaw, more crowding

Next, the more upright walking a human is, the shorter the jaw. Shorter jaw, less room for more teeth.

Lastly, better dental care means we can save teeth that are damaged. More teeth, the more the shorter jaw becomes a problem.

Anyway, I do like a 2006 thread resuscitated in 2019.
 

Mike_Jones

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Mr Doof said:
squidley said:
Carbohydrate ingestion is a detractor from calcium homeostasis via autoimmune processes.
(But more sugary foods too which causes lots of bacterial growth.)
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Lastly, better dental care means we can save teeth that are damaged. More teeth, the more the shorter jaw becomes a problem.....
Carbohydrates=Sugar

Bacterial growth is a pivotal requirement in autoimmune disease.

Why do hunter gatherer corpses have more robust jaws with no tooth overcrowding if modern dental care is a big factor?

https://thepaleodiet.com/why-is-my-jaw-shrinking-dental-problems-western-diet/

.....Dr. Weston A. Price, a dentist, published Nutrition and Physical Degeneration in 1939. Price documented numerous observational examples of primitive peoples who had healthy dentitions and others who had various dental problems including gum disease, tooth decay, and poor jaw development. He identified that those with healthy dentitions generally ate nutrient-dense foods, and those with unhealthy dental conditions regularly consumed diets high in flour, sugar, processed vegetable fats and processed foods. Price implicated a lack of both fat-soluble vitamins and trace minerals to be the most important deficiencies causing dental problems.

Since then, there have been numerous observations among hunter-gatherer societies who had relatively healthy bodies with little or no chronic disease. Those hunter-gatherers who continued to eat their natural diets had healthy dentitions and those who left their traditional diets and began to eat a “western diet” developed dental problems and jaw shrinking and had offspring with increased dental abnormalities.3.....
Carbohydrates do play an important roll in human evolution. They hasten death, and therefore hasten evolutionary changes to the species.
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Mainstream dentistry tends to explain wisdom tooth impaction as an overproduction of teeth, left over from when people grew too many teeth in case some of them were lost. I tend to look at wisdom tooth impaction as jaw bone loss in modern humans. The bone loss continues throughout life, explaining lower front tooth overcrowding as many people age.

Skeletal records of hunter gatherer humans shows robust lower jaws and teeth. Carbohydrate ingestion is a detractor from calcium homeostasis via autoimmune processes.
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Umm. No.
I was under the impression from something I read way back in those fine, always sunny days at University, that the modern human has wisdom teeth problems due to:

1 Change is diet

2 Evolution

3 Dental care

First, we have softer foods with less rocks and whatnot in it, so we aren't ruining our teeth like we used to, so we are retaining more of our teeth for longer. (But more sugary foods too which causes lots of bacterial growth.) More teeth in the jaw, more crowding

Next, the more upright walking a human is, the shorter the jaw. Shorter jaw, less room for more teeth.

Lastly, better dental care means we can save teeth that are damaged. More teeth, the more the shorter jaw becomes a problem.

Anyway, I do like a 2006 thread resuscitated in 2019.
Pretty much spot on to what current research says.

Carbohydrates=Sugar

Bacterial growth is a pivotal requirement in autoimmune disease.

Why do hunter gatherer corpses have more robust jaws with no tooth overcrowding if modern dental care is a big factor?




Carbohydrates do play an important roll in human evolution. They hasten death, and therefore hasten evolutionary changes to the species.
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Why do people keep quoting and/or referring to Dr Price? Yes, the man was a Maverick in his time. I guarantee that he is rolling in his grave every time people refer to him to validate their untrue claims about modern dentistry. He was an amazing and accomplished man, he would be on the forefront of modern dentistry if he were alive today. Do people refer back to computer geniuses of 1945 in order to invalidate the progress of todays computing marvels, I think not. Come on, "self proclaimed internet experts", the man died 71 years ago. A LOT of things have been learned since then. sh!t, Antibiotics were barely discovered while he was living.
 
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GromsDad

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Got the teeth out today. They put me under using general anethesia. They called me in the office and put me under within 2 minutes of sitting down. I feel ok for the most part. I was acting really goofy at first. The pain is kinda bad but I am dealing with it so far.

i have a bunch of stiches and it hurst when i swallow. And my nose keeps bleeding. I think they had a tube in my nose that irritated it.
Hopefully they got all four so you don't have to deal with this issue again down the road.
 

grg

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Sh&t that's nothing. Try going thru an infection in your hip post hip replacement....

Wisdom surgery sounds gnar though. I wasn't born with any. Get well soon
 

gbg

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I had 2 wisdom teeth pulled in my 30s. Sucked.

I woke up and dr said we had some problems. I had to cut into bone to get them out. Take these painkillers. I said im fine with ibuprofen. He said you are not. Got the script filled just in case. Once the anesthetic wore off my god it was debilitating pain. Popping those pills every 4 hours.