What if this were true?

[GromsDad]

What if it was found out that President Obama had abused the power of his office and had intelligence forces surveilled Rand Paul or other presidential candidates?

Would you drag the former president off to prison?

http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/332084-rand-paul-requests-info-on-whether-obama-surveilled-him

 

[sizzld1]

Republicans are a real trip. What makes you think this story has any credibility? Didn't you learn anything from Trump's baseless allegations? Now on to the next as though they deserve to be credited? Here's a better question: when will Republicans finally get over their obsession with vilifying Obama?

 

[GromsDad]

You didn't answer the question: What if it were true?

 

[hal9000]

You didn't answer the question: What if it were true?

We have a thing called due process. Google it.

 

[GromsDad]

OK. Due process takes place and it turns out it was true........what is the fitting punishment. Keep dodging.

 

[$kully]

What if it were True that Donald Trump colluded with the Russians?

 

[sizzld1]

Ok. I'll engage for a moment. The answer is it depends.

If Rand, like Trump's associates, was under active surveillance as part of a valid warrant, then absolutely nothing should happen other than Republicans apologizing profusely for baselessly accusing the former POTUS of engaging in criminal activity. That is where we currently stand on the allegations against Obama.

If there was no warrant and he engaged in unlawful surveillance [not a single iota of evidence has been put forth to support such a claim], then he should be charged with whatever crime fits his actions and sentenced accordingly.

 

[hal9000]

OK. Due process takes place and it turns out it was true........what is the fitting punishment. Keep dodging.

That's for a jury and the courts to decide.

 

[$kully]

Ok. I'll engage for a moment. The answer is it depends.

If Rand, like Trump's associates, was under active surveillance as part of a valid warrant, then absolutely nothing should happen other than Republicans apologizing profusely for baselessly accusing the former POTUS of engaging in criminal activity. That is where we currently stand on the allegations against Obama.

If there was no warrant and he engaged in unlawful surveillance [not a single iota of evidence has been put forth to support such a claim], then he should be charged with whatever crime fits his actions and sentenced accordingly.

This.

 

[hal9000]

1. haven't we been down this road? The law doesn't permit the president to order the surveillance of individuals? There seemed to have been enough dissent in Obama's administration that someone like Comey would have gotten hold of that information and exposed it?

2. Where's the evidence?

3. Even if this were true, does anyone really think the Obama administration was dumb enough to circumvent the legal process?

 

[Gnudz]

Never happened.

Poodlehead can suck it.

 

[GromsDad]

Ok. I'll engage for a moment. The answer is it depends.

If Rand, like Trump's associates, was under active surveillance as part of a valid warrant, then absolutely nothing should happen other than Republicans apologizing profusely for baselessly accusing the former POTUS of engaging in criminal activity. That is where we currently stand on the allegations against Obama.

If there was no warrant and he engaged in unlawful surveillance [not a single iota of evidence has been put forth to support such a claim], then he should be charged with whatever crime fits his actions and sentenced accordingly.

See. That wasn't so difficult now was it? No need to dodge. Just give a stray answer to a direct question. Thanks.

 

[Sharkbiscuit]

Put President Obama in President Miller's cell for the same 85 days she served for outing Valerie Plame

Vintage:

http://forum.surfer.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=918008&page=1

http://forum.surfer.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=666255&page=1

 

[Billy Ocean]

Let's do this Latin America style

Show trial then execute Obama, Hillary, Rice, etc, etc in the Rose Garden immediately after

Then a nice lunch

 

[Billy Ocean]

By the way, it really happened and the best way to ensure it never does again is to do exactly what I recommended above

 

[Sharkbiscuit]

Let's do this Latin America style

Then a nice lunch

"Watch ye therefore, for ye know not when the mods of the erBB cometh."

:cookin:

 

[grapedrink]

Obama Derangement Syndrome

 

[sizzld1]

Ok. I'll engage for a moment. The answer is it depends.

If Rand, like Trump's associates, was under active surveillance as part of a valid warrant, then absolutely nothing should happen other than Republicans apologizing profusely for baselessly accusing the former POTUS of engaging in criminal activity. That is where we currently stand on the allegations against Obama.

If there was no warrant and he engaged in unlawful surveillance [not a single iota of evidence has been put forth to support such a claim], then he should be charged with whatever crime fits his actions and sentenced accordingly.

See. That wasn't so difficult now was it? No need to dodge. Just give a stray answer to a direct question. Thanks.

That's hilarious coming from you Grommy. I don't know how many hundreds of times I, and others, have asked you direct questions that you resolutely fail to answer, but it is definitely in the hundreds at this point.

 

[hal9000]

Obama Derangement Syndrome

Seriously. The old mailman is still triggered by Obama after all these years.