<BR>Got this one from a Mav's site as well.. Never turn your back on mother ocean <P><EMBED src="http://www.mavsurfer.com/mavsurfer_00/video_clips/clips/carnage_320_240.mov" width="320" height="256" autoplay="true" loop="false" controller="true" playeveryframe="false" bgcolor="#000000" kioskmode="false" targetcache="false" pluginspage="http://www.apple.com/quicktime/"> <p>[This message has been edited by LBInjSurfer (edited 11-19-2002).]